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[KimberleyChris]

It would have taken 50 years to exhaust the new seams that the mine was built to exploit. Obviously only a tiny fraction of the UK's total energy needs, but still a waste.

OK, politics apart, it was maybe uneconomical to mine it then, but wouldn't it have been better to 'mothball' collieries with remaining reserves, in case of long-term national need / war /blockade etc.

They had to bring people over from South Africa to sink those shafts. What a waste.

[BrilloPad]

No simply that Greece is a good candidate for that sort of investment as well. Politically more stable and part of the EU, among other things.

Greece is getting ready to blow. At some point in 2012 it will come unless Germany allows money printing.

[doodab]

And your point is that this isn't possible?

No simply that Greece is a good candidate for that sort of investment as well. Politically more stable and part of the EU, among other things.

[TimberWolf]

"Sadly we burnt all our coal 100 years ago".

There's still at least 50 years worth of coal left at the bottom of Parkside colliery in South Lancs.

You can't have it, because (instead of 'mothballing' it just in case we need it in future) they dynamited all the pit-head structures down the shafts for spite, and now you would need to sink new shafts.

What do you mean by 50 years? It could be 250 years if you scrape the walls hard and long enough. Divide the amount down there by the UK's energy needs and you'll see it isn't 50 years. We've no coal left.

[KimberleyChris]

"Sadly we burnt all our coal 100 years ago".

There's still at least 50 years worth of coal left at the bottom of Parkside colliery in South Lancs.

You can't have it, because (instead of 'mothballing' it just in case we need it in future) they dynamited all the pit-head structures down the shafts for spite, and now you would need to sink new shafts.

[BrilloPad]

Sadly we burnt all our coal 100 years ago.

Still a few years yet. So we need to get on with fusion fast.

[TimberWolf]

I don't like being dependent on anyone else for fuel. We should be opening coal fired power stations and pushing on with fusion.

Sadly we burnt all our coal 100 years ago.

[BrilloPad]

Wow, that's an ambitious plan!


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and being Germans, they will probably pull it off too, and end up world leaders in manufacturing the parts and selling they rest of us poor scrotes electricity. Assuming they can keep terrorists and disgruntled African/Spanish/French hands off it.

I don't like being dependent on anyone else for fuel. We should be opening coal fired power stations and pushing on with fusion.

[TimberWolf]

And your point is that this isn't possible?

Wow, that's an ambitious plan!


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and being Germans, they will probably pull it off too, and end up world leaders in manufacturing the parts and selling they rest of us poor scrotes electricity. Assuming they can keep terrorists and disgruntled African/Spanish/French hands off it.

[darmstadt]

I do not know of any socialist who has endowed money upon the poor. I would imagine however that the great philanthropists of our time were followers of Conservative ideals. One of the difference between conservatives and socialists is that they dont pretend to be something they are not (caring of the poor). There is no virtue in being a socialist whatsoever. Why on earth would anyone with a brain logically sustain an ideology that does not work unless they have another agenda?

This chap maybe?

[darmstadt]

The sahara is further away on the wrong side of the sea.

And your point is that this isn't possible?

[BlasterBates]

I think it's all a load of bollocks.

There are some differences in policy but very little idealogical difference between this lot or the last lot, because the last lot copied this lot in order to get elected. This convergence is a natural state of affairs in a system which requires those seeking power to appeal to the general population.

As regards ideologies, neither cartoon socialism or cartoon conservatism (more properly called economic liberalism IMO) is workable in practice.

Absolutely - good analysis.

[doodab]

Well what do you think think then oh fellow "nothing better to do on a Saturday night" one

I think it's all a load of bollocks.

There are some differences in policy but very little idealogical difference between this lot or the last lot, because the last lot copied this lot in order to get elected. This convergence is a natural state of affairs in a system which requires those seeking power to appeal to the general population.

As regards ideologies, neither cartoon socialism or cartoon conservatism (more properly called economic liberalism IMO) is workable in practice.

[KimberleyChris]

It's not polarised.

I'm right and he's wrong :-)

[DodgyAgent]

Do you really think that any of our political parties have anything to do with either of the polarised ideologies you keep ranting on about?

Well what do you think think then oh fellow "nothing better to do on a Saturday night" one