Reply to: Turkey to extradite Fergie?

[Support Monkey]

Oh yes they do.

Smoke screen, they have their feet very much in both worlds not only are they courted by the arabs and the west they also do it the other way round to keep favour with both sides

[AtW]

Some orphanages in Romania are (or were until recently) as grim as the ones the program showed in Turkey

I said BETTER not perfect - if they are in EU they'll have some obligations to do something about it.

[OwlHoot]

Turkish children are likely to have better protection if Turkey was in the EU rather than out of it.

Some orphanages in Romania are (or were until recently) as grim as the ones the program showed in Turkey

[darmstadt]

And they don't like the French much either

[xoggoth]

Turkey claimed it was an attempt to smear the country's reputation as it awaited a report on its application for membership of the European Union

Excellent in itself.

[Sysman]

Slightly off topic but the Turkish don't want to join the EU or anyone else for that matter, they are a very powerfull country being situated between the west and the arab world and many countries from both sides court them, we probably need them more than they need us

Er, why have they applied to join the EU then?

[AtW]

The article I read yesterday reported that the timing of the programme coincided with Turkey's attempt to get into the EU, and that's why they are so upset.

Turkish children are likely to have better protection if Turkey was in the EU rather than out of it.

[Sysman]

I'm surprised the Turks are even trying to pursue this, given that the UK is about the only EU country to support their wish to join the EU.

But then maybe our enthusiasm for that has been flagging, or it's not a desirable objective for them any more.

The article I read yesterday reported that the timing of the programme coincided with Turkey's attempt to get into the EU, and that's why they are so upset.

[AtW]

The UK has to do whatever the USA says.

USA actually pursues criminals around the world and gets them sooner or later - the UK on the other hand does not seem to care about cyber crime much unless it involves voice mail hacking of celebrities!

[BrilloPad]

The making money should make no difference, it is only a question of whether he broke UK law.
If he is guilty then what next? Are all UK citizens subject to all global law?

The UK has to do whatever the USA says.

[AtW]

The making money should make no difference, it is only a question of whether he broke UK law.

There are also international treaties governing IP.

Personally I think he's crossed the line especially with making money on it, however it's not obvious to me that he could get convicted in UK, especially given that police and CPS are generally very lax when it comes to cyber crimes.

[Arturo Bassick]

I don't think it's correct comparison because Google search does not primarily concern itself with searching for torrents, it's a very small part of its business and they certainly don't make much money from it - unlike that guy, that I think will be his undoing.

The making money should make no difference, it is only a question of whether he broke UK law.
If he is guilty then what next? Are all UK citizens subject to all global law?

[wobbegong]

Slightly off topic but the Turkish don't want to join the EU or anyone else for that matter, they are a very powerfull country being situated between the west and the arab world and many countries from both sides court them, we probably need them more than they need us

Oh yes they do.

The Turkish President, Abdullah Gul, says his country still wants to join the European Union despite the euro zone crisis. 20/11/2011

[AtW]

If it is then Google (or other search engines) searches returning the same results are surely also breaking the law. They may get away with it as they return search results where he maintains links.

I don't think it's correct comparison because Google search does not primarily concern itself with searching for torrents, it's a very small part of its business and they certainly don't make much money from it - unlike that guy, that I think will be his undoing.

[Arturo Bassick]

That is indeed an interesting case as it's not clear whether what he did is illegal under UK law.

Most reports have said it isnt.
If it is then Google (or other search engines) searches returning the same results are surely also breaking the law. They may get away with it as they return search results where he maintains links.