Reply to: Been totally misled and lied to by a hiring manager for contract - my legal position?

[messiah]

"I have a copy of the job description e-mailed to me by the recruitment agent which clearly states UNIX C++ development with SQL Sybase development yet after 8 weeks no such work is forthcoming.
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feck me, it took you eight weeks to realise you were doing VAX/VMS scripting and not UNIX C++ Development with SQL Sybase !!!!

feck me, you need a break, you need to go home and lie down !

funniest thing I've heard all day.

up the gold price

software to the gentry

Milan.

No the manager kept making promises of development and design work, nothing transpired end of week 3 I started to lose confidence in the manager's integrity. Ho hum, next contract, next psychopath.

[milanbenes]

"I have a copy of the job description e-mailed to me by the recruitment agent which clearly states UNIX C++ development with SQL Sybase development yet after 8 weeks no such work is forthcoming.
",

feck me, it took you eight weeks to realise you were doing VAX/VMS scripting and not UNIX C++ Development with SQL Sybase !!!!

feck me, you need a break, you need to go home and lie down !

funniest thing I've heard all day.

up the gold price

software to the gentry

Milan.

[Spartacus]

I've already told Tony English - Please stick to the subject. it shows a lack of intelligence if you cannot do so.

However, in response to you post, I never said I wouldn't return. I look to pop back every now and again as it makes me so much happier that I am able to be happy with my lot in life.

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[Churchill]

I'm going to the pub for a couple of pints after work, anyone care to join me?

[DodgyAgent]

I've already told Tony English - Please stick to the subject. it shows a lack of intelligence if you cannot do so.

However, in response to you post, I never said I wouldn't return. I look to pop back every now and again as it makes me so much happier that I am able to be happy with my lot in life.

why does changing the subject show a lack of intelligence?? or am I being stupid here?

[Dundeegeorge]

so you come here to make yourself feel happy

I've already told Tony English - Please stick to the subject. it shows a lack of intelligence if you cannot do so.

However, in response to you post, I never said I wouldn't return. I look to pop back every now and again as it makes me so much happier that I am able to be happy with my lot in life.

because you're (you believe) happier than the people moaning in here, is that right?
If you're feeling a bit poorly do you nip down to your local cancer ward and tell yourself how much healthier you are than those patients, do you feel really rich when you meet a tramp, do you feel really good-looking when you see (most of) the people you probably have to work with?
Relativism, no wonder you're left-wing.......

[benn0]

I thought you'd left this site?

I've already told Tony English - Please stick to the subject. it shows a lack of intelligence if you cannot do so.

However, in response to you post, I never said I wouldn't return. I look to pop back every now and again as it makes me so much happier that I am able to be happy with my lot in life.

[DaveB]

yes folks I was told at the interview that the role would be a full blown software engineering role, C++ under UNIX and instead the role seems to be a VAX/VMS operational test script / tesing role.

I have a copy of the job description e-mailed to me by the recruitment agent which clearly states UNIX C++ development with SQL Sybase development yet after 8 weeks no such work is forthcoming.

At the interview I was totally misled being told that I would be doing C++ development and design work (I am a veteran of this real-time etc. having worked at top companies with good and reliable references there).

What is interesting is that an ex-colleage of mine is in EXACTLY the same position with this same company/manager and is distraught with the situation.

We are both seeking to leave this company fast yet my question to you all is what is our legal position as contractors if we both find ourselves in a position where we were totally fooled into a totally bogus job ? Can we sue for selling a job that was never really on offer ?

Note they tried to get us to sign 4 weeks notice on our side but 1 years notice on their side initially but we both refused, now we know why, the job was a complete and utter hoax. They just paid over the odds to get what they think to be the best possible testers ie developers (doh ! thats management for you in a corporate dinosaur).

advice please ... (and yes I repeat I am seeking to leave but I've been put into a very awkward position and so has my colleague, no one would ever believe that we were doing testing given our previous background ... no way).

Give your notice and walk. If they ask why tell them what you told us, the contract was not as advertised.. If you're worried about a short spell of testing on your CV use the job description you were given instead what actually happened.

[Spartacus]

Yes but you said If I don't like the moaning on the site I shouldn't be here. So I moan about people moaning and I get told to piss off, when all I'm doing is adding to the total amount of moaning on this site which as far as I can see is the main purpose of this board.

I can't help it if just because I'm moaning about something you don't agree about you throw your rattle out of the pram.

I thought you'd left this site?

[benn0]

I totally agree with your comment, but all you do is moan about people moaning. If you dont like this site then stick to your word (remember you said you were leaving?? are you sure you are not Mandleson??) and p*** off

Yes but you said If I don't like the moaning on the site I shouldn't be here. So I moan about people moaning and I get told to piss off, when all I'm doing is adding to the total amount of moaning on this site which as far as I can see is the main purpose of this board.

I can't help it if just because I'm moaning about something you don't agree about you throw your rattle out of the pram.

[Dalek Supreme]

Sounds to me like you are moaning about someone moaning about someone who's moaning about something.

Oi, stop moaning about it!

[DimPrawn]

Sounds to me like you are moaning about someone moaning about someone who's moaning about something.

[DodgyAgent]

So you don't agree with what I'm telling him then? Everyone else seems to.

I totally agree with your comment, but all you do is moan about people moaning. If you dont like this site then stick to your word (remember you said you were leaving?? are you sure you are not Mandleson??) and p*** off

[Dalek Supreme]

Why do you look like a wasp?

Because I have a nasty sting. Anyway, what are you doing away from your allotted workplace? Shouldn't you be robotising some human slaves or something?

[Gold Dalek]

On what grounds would you sue them? Lying to you? Oh boo-hoo! Get a grip, to sue someone you need to be able to demonstrate financial loss. It's time to start acting like what you are (and stop calling your client your employer for starters). If you contracted a man to install a kitchen and when he arrived you asked him to install a bathroom instead, and he actually started doing it, would you then expect him to sue you?

Be professional. You're running a business. Have a meeting with your client and explain calmly and clearly the issues. Forget your mate, he's nothing to do with your company and is strictly on his own. If they take the approach that they own you and you do whatever you are damn well told, just calmly tell them that is not acceptable in a b2b relationship and tender notice.

If you can't bring yourself to act in a mature, professional manner, then I'm with the others on this one, just give notice and clear off.

Either way, time to grow up and act like a contractor rather than a petulant permie.

Why do you look like a wasp?