Reply to: Permie or Bye, what would you do?

[jmo21]

just the thought of performance reviews, team bonding events, permie political suck-fests (not that!! brown nosing.... not THAT!!!! ach you know what I mean) makes me shudder.

[slogger]

6 month renewal is definitely a

just view it as a different sort of contract - just gone permy myself - sometimes feels quite wrong - but total comp is about 10% less than contracting at a pretty good rate - also looking at current contract rates in my area (unix/city) - they appear to be a lot lower than a year ago by a couple of hundred pounds per day . .. I do prefer the psychology of contracting, however the market at the moment is very bad ..

having said that if you where offered a long gig (6-12months) at a good rate somewhere I'd take that over permydoom!

[eek]

6 month renewal is definitely a

[Notascooby]

Why not have a too!

[norrahe]

6 months same rate, but next to zero probability of renewal after that.

But hey that's worth a .

Congrats!

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[Scrag Meister]

Boomed

6 months same rate, but next to zero probability of renewal after that.

But hey that's worth a .

[scooterscot]

Even managed to get my nads checked out by Bupa for free. Which was nice.

Are you saying you normally pay to get them felt?

[scooterscot]

They'd never take me alive.

This one time a line manager walks up to me in a hush hush like way and ask's if I would consider a full time position. An uncontrollable laugh that only sounded worse as I tried to hold back my expression give my answer sure enough. The contract was not renewed.

A year and half later they're on the phone direct asking me to come back for a 12 monther at least.

[moorfield]

Currently docked in perm harbour.

Nice easy life, no complaints, lots of WFH.

My boss got sacked a while ago.

Even managed to get my nads checked out by Bupa for free. Which was nice.

[shaunbhoy]

Spoke to my sponsoring manager's boss today, and asked if he, being slightly further up the ladder, had anymore insight into my renewal or not as the case maybe, what with this new 12 month max policy for contractors being introduced.

He said that he had gone through his list of contractors and there were only a few that he could be bothered to put any effort into keeping, and I was one of them. Then he started going on about how the role I perform will probably be needed for a couple of years or more.

All words so far, waiting on the paperwork/emails to confirm the decision.

Told him that I'm only 5 weeks from end of contract and need to get this sorted asap.

Still looking and a few fingers in pies, but as is always said a bird in the hand.....

Sounds quite promising anyway. Good luck with it.

[Scrag Meister]

Update

Spoke to my sponsoring manager's boss today, and asked if he, being slightly further up the ladder, had anymore insight into my renewal or not as the case maybe, what with this new 12 month max policy for contractors being introduced.

He said that he had gone through his list of contractors and there were only a few that he could be bothered to put any effort into keeping, and I was one of them. Then he started going on about how the role I perform will probably be needed for a couple of years or more.

All words so far, waiting on the paperwork/emails to confirm the decision.

Told him that I'm only 5 weeks from end of contract and need to get this sorted asap.

Still looking and a few fingers in pies, but as is always said a bird in the hand.....

[Support Monkey]

See if you can ascertain why they have a limited tenure for Tractors.

If it is just "company policy" then there is not much you can do other than pointing out the stupidity of turfing out your knowledge base every 12 months and wasting months training the new batch or having to maintain a team large enough to cope when there is a surge in demand.

If it is a genuine worry about temporary workers legislation the you can educate them into using best practice for hiring contractors. Point out that when done properly there are no issues for either the client or the contractor.

WABS, its all very good saying no contractors but the minute some project comes up that urgently requires a non in house skill, its either:

1) get someone sorted this week,3 months time get rid
2) spend 2 months advertising, interviewing, second interview HR paperwork, 3 month project then find them something else to do for the rest of their working life or redundacy payment.

there will always be a place for the contractor

[Scrag Meister]

Can't you just come to an arrangement to leave for a week or two, and then rejoin starting a new tenure?

6 months is the required period.

[JohnAbroad]

Jump to permie if it's good enough.

If(like me) you wanted to move. I went cynically perm with a 6 figure salary(with bonus) so I could borrow shed loads from the bank. All I needed was 3 months worth of wage slips as opposed to 3 years worth of accounts(and the twunts take your gross salary). Landed up doing two years before contracting again for the last 2.5.

Good advice to go permie if you need/want another house. If you work for bank X, then go to bank Y for mortgage, with employers staff mortgage as benchmark! If you loose your job you loose your staff mortgage. Plus bank Y really work at it, once you convince them it is for real.

[doodab]

I would go permie for 200 x my day rate. Take it or leave it.

Oh yeah, and I'm not putting up with any of that APR bollocks either.