• Visitors can check out the Forum FAQ by clicking this link. You have to register before you can post: click the REGISTER link above to proceed. To start viewing messages, select the forum that you want to visit from the selection below. View our Forum Privacy Policy.
  • Want to receive the latest contracting news and advice straight to your inbox? Sign up to the ContractorUK newsletter here. Every sign up will also be entered into a draw to WIN £100 Amazon vouchers!

Reply to: Daily Boom

Collapse

You are not logged in or you do not have permission to access this page. This could be due to one of several reasons:

  • You are not logged in. If you are already registered, fill in the form below to log in, or follow the "Sign Up" link to register a new account.
  • You may not have sufficient privileges to access this page. Are you trying to edit someone else's post, access administrative features or some other privileged system?
  • If you are trying to post, the administrator may have disabled your account, or it may be awaiting activation.

Previously on "Daily Boom"

Collapse

  • KimberleyChris
    replied
    Well, it's a people thing.

    I am technically a dolie at the moment, but the house is just as good as when we moved in two years ago. The letting agent comes round occasionally to give us the OK, and so would a housing association.

    I know that if I need to move for my next job, then I am going to need a good reference from the present letting agent.

    Besides, our landlords have stuck with us through some bloody hard times, so fair's fair.

    You are bound to be unlucky sometimes, but dolies are human, they just need a job that's all.

    Go on... Gizzajob :-)

    Leave a comment:


  • stek
    replied
    Originally posted by KimberleyChris View Post
    To AtW Puzzled :-)

    Like I said, the dolie's rent comes straight to you. If you rent via an estate agent to a so-called professional, who then gets benched, HE gets the rent and may not pass it on to you.
    Doesn't stop him walking away with the CH boiler tho as I mentioned above....

    Leave a comment:


  • AtW
    replied
    Originally posted by KimberleyChris View Post
    Like I said, the dolie's rent comes straight to you. If you rent via an estate agent to a so-called professional, who then gets benched, HE gets the rent and may not pass it on to you.
    That's what credit checks for, large deposits, references and generally renting out property to people who can clearly afford it: benched or not.

    I would have thought someone on the dole would have less incentive to care about the place, you can't even hope to take them to court and get back your solicitor fees, however if you rent out on the slum end of the market then it's probably better choice, but wtf have such renting business? Might as well stick to IT contracting.

    Leave a comment:


  • KimberleyChris
    replied
    To AtW Puzzled :-)

    Like I said, the dolie's rent comes straight to you. If you rent via an estate agent to a so-called professional, who then gets benched, HE gets the rent and may not pass it on to you.

    Leave a comment:


  • AtW
    replied
    Originally posted by KimberleyChris View Post
    It takes the risk away, and it's better to rent to a dolie who later gets a job, than to a worker who then gets sacked.

    Leave a comment:


  • KimberleyChris
    replied
    That's another benefit of letting via a housing association.

    The rent is assured, although you will only get a 'fair rent' not a 'rip-off' rent. If there was such an emergency, then the tenant is already in their system, and the housing association will move them.

    If I were in a position to go into the landlord business, I would buy a few nice little terraced jobs, do them up to a good basic standard, and rent them out to DSS people (who have of course been vetted by the association and not grasping agents).

    It takes the risk away, and it's better to rent to a dolie who later gets a job, than to a worker who then gets sacked.

    Leave a comment:


  • AtW
    replied
    Originally posted by stek View Post
    all it takes is one scrote to leave with the boiler and you're a years rent down....
    I can almost picture sasguru returning back from his "luxury holiday" to find that cheque for £20k he got for Olympic period rental of his Wandsworth mansion bounced and he's got no house in place any more

    Leave a comment:


  • AtW
    replied
    Originally posted by KimberleyChris View Post
    Then he died pretty suddenly.
    This is sad, but surely life insurance would have been reasonable given committments like wife, house etc?

    Leave a comment:


  • stek
    replied
    I've got a mate (not a contractor) with about 20 houses, all at the lower-end of the scale, DSS etc, he bought the properties at rock bottom prices in the 80's, but he told me all it takes is one scrote to leave with the boiler and you're a years rent down....

    Another mate, who is a contractor rents out one property not far from me, he used to ask me to walk past to have a look, I'd report back - "Rear yard stone wall missing" - turned out that dood sold the stones and had a weed farm in the cellar then did a runner...

    I don't fancy it - tho I did consider buying this huge house in Adlershof in Berlin (East part) it was something like 130k Euro, could have lived in a small part of and rent out (and watch closely) the rest. That was when the current mrs stek was working there and I was over every five minutes....

    Leave a comment:


  • KimberleyChris
    replied
    Originally posted by AtW View Post
    She should not have gotten into landlord game if she needed.

    Problem with this country is too many amateur landlords - very bad tenant protection laws (unless they squat).
    Well, it's a bid of a sad story. Her husband got a really good long-term contract in another part of the country, so she rented her house out 'for the duration' and they rented another.

    Then he died pretty suddenly. Her tenant has nowhere to go because of the 'no DSS' thing, and she is now stuck alone in a strange part of the country.

    Like I said...a minefield.

    Leave a comment:


  • AtW
    replied
    Originally posted by KimberleyChris View Post
    She actually needs the house back to live in it herself, but she ain't getting it back.
    She should not have gotten into landlord game if she needed.

    Problem with this country is too many amateur landlords - very bad tenant protection laws (unless they squat).

    Leave a comment:


  • KimberleyChris
    replied
    Originally posted by DimPrawn View Post
    Mortgage squeeze fuels surge in buy-to-let investors - Telegraph


    Is there a more secure and easy way to riches than this?

    .
    Yes, put it all on a horse.

    All goes well until your tenant gets benched, which is happening a lot now. You need a reposession order to get them out, and in the current climate no judge will simply throw a tenant out on the street if they have nowhere else to go, as long as the rent has not been withheld maliciously.

    I have a friend who is owed over 4000 quid. She actually needs the house back to live in it herself, but she ain't getting it back.

    It's a minefield...beware.

    Ironically, I am told that the most secure way of letting is through your local housing association, because if you have tenants who are on the dole, the rent comes direct to YOU - not the tenant. So the 'no DSS' thing can be a two-edged sword.

    Leave a comment:


  • DimPrawn
    started a topic Daily Boom

    Daily Boom

    Mortgage squeeze fuels surge in buy-to-let investors - Telegraph

    The share of residential housing stock owned by private landlords has jumped more than 40pc since the financial crisis, and now makes up almost a fifth of the total, according to estate agent Savills.



    Is there a more secure and easy way to riches than this?

    Those with a bit of cash and some spare time can grab some bargains out there and make yourselves rich.

Working...
X