Reply to: Another one caught dressed as a Nazi

[Mich the Tester]

And you needed a couple of spare pillow cases.

Fairy Nuff.

Triangular pillow cases I suppose.

[DodgyAgent]

So am I - that programme was criminally unfunny.

Thank god for that. I would have been deeply concerned if you had found it funny.

[MarillionFan]

What made you want to attend a KKK lodge meeting?

They were having a bedding sale.

[Mich the Tester]

Happened to me a few years ago at a kkk lodge meeting in Texas. Couple of guys turned up in Nazi uniform and I had my picture taken. I can hardly be called a Nazi.

What made you want to attend a KKK lodge meeting?

[wim121]

It's nazism actually.

Nazism is fascist itself. I was correct to use the term fascist as I was also discussing UAF's behaviour as well. They are fascist, hence me using that term.

Nope, it's all about choice. That's the thing with 'democracy' you have to be tolerant of other people's views, opinions and beliefs no matter how repugnant they are to you.

People are misguided on the term tolerance though.

Tolerant just means I cant legally smash someones head in with a rock in an "honour killing" or have them dragged off by the special forces in to the hills to die like in other countries.

However being tolerant doesn't mean I have to like someones views/opinions/beliefs, share them or even choose to be around them. In a free society, I should also have the freedom to tell them in a non threatening manner how repugnant I find them, but we don't live in a free society.

[Peoplesoft bloke]

In our "democracy" you can get away with it but I wouldn't try that in France or Germany.

Interesting - many memorials to the war dead in France carry inscriptions like "killed by the Germans" and "victim of Nazi barbarity". You couldn't put stuff like that on graves here.

[Peoplesoft bloke]

Many of the cast of Allo Allo used to regularly dress as Nazis. I'm amazed the BBC allowed them to keep their jobs.

So am I - that programme was criminally unfunny.

[xoggoth]

Forget the channel but there was a couple of great TV progs on Nazis couple of days ago. Goebbles gave a public speech saying no government was really strong without its propoganda, the state and propoganda went hand in hand. Seemed a bit odd, if you are to use propoganda effectively, should you be telling people?

[AtW]

At no time did I say that the 'definition' of democracy was tolerance. It is, however, a by-product of the political system in which anyone can vote for, or indeed represent any political party they choose.

Not always, you are just assuming that because most Western countries are very tolerant to all sort of stuff AND there is democracy here then one follows the other automatically.

Say Germany is a democracy yet they won't tolerate this nazi tulip. France also a democracy and they have laws to enforce their secular state that in this country would probably cause massive riots if they were adopted.

[wobbegong]

You need to check definition of word democracy:

"A form of government in which the supreme power is vested in the people and exercised directly by them or by their elected agents under a free electoral system."

Source: Democracy | Define Democracy at Dictionary.com

I am personally fine with people having all sort of views, even dressing up in nazi uniform as they please HOWEVER just because they have such right does not mean I have to be friends with them and it does not mean they can remain MPs or still get invited into places where people don't agree with wearing of nazi uniform (unless it's in the movie).

. . . and you need to understand my post. At no time did I say that the 'definition' of democracy was tolerance. It is, however, a by-product of the political system in which anyone can vote for, or indeed represent any political party they choose.

As for you being friends with people who wear Nazi costumes, who is asking you to?

[AtW]

That's the thing with 'democracy' you have to be tolerant of other people's views, opinions and beliefs no matter how repugnant they are to you.

You need to check definition of word democracy:

"A form of government in which the supreme power is vested in the people and exercised directly by them or by their elected agents under a free electoral system."

Source: Democracy | Define Democracy at Dictionary.com

I am personally fine with people having all sort of views, even dressing up in nazi uniform as they please HOWEVER just because they have such right does not mean I have to be friends with them and it does not mean they can remain MPs or still get invited into places where people don't agree with wearing of nazi uniform (unless it's in the movie).

[TimberWolf]

In our "democracy" you can get away with it but I wouldn't try that in France or Germany.

The stag party, at a restaurant in the ski resort of Val Thorens in France

David Cameron sacks MP Aidan Burley for links with Hitler stag party | Mail Online

If you is rich you can goosestep anywhere.

[SueEllen]

Nope, it's all about choice. That's the thing with 'democracy' you have to be tolerant of other people's views, opinions and beliefs no matter how repugnant they are to you.

In our "democracy" you can get away with it but I wouldn't try that in France or Germany.

[wobbegong]

Who knows, but it's still offensive to support fascism.

Nope, it's all about choice. That's the thing with 'democracy' you have to be tolerant of other people's views, opinions and beliefs no matter how repugnant they are to you.

People get offended by a great variety of things, but the bottom line is "so what, be offended, nothing happens".

[TimberWolf]

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