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Previously on "English move away from being British"

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  • The_Equalizer
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    Originally posted by scooterscot View Post
    That's what Tory MP after Tory MP said about Scotland for many a decade. The end result is everything to do with them.
    Thought the Scots were in control from 1997 - 2010 on both sides of the border anyway.

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  • scooterscot
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    Originally posted by Spacecadet View Post
    I still have no idea wht this has to do with the Tories
    That's what Tory MP after Tory MP said about Scotland for many a decade. The end result is everything to do with them.

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  • Spacecadet
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    I still have no idea wht this has to do with the Tories

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  • The_Equalizer
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    Originally posted by doodab View Post
    FTFY
    Possibly so.

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  • doodab
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    Originally posted by The_Equalizer View Post
    Not quite the point I was making. His language is used to inflame and be generally underhanded. Perhaps a common tactic by politicians of all stripes?
    FTFY

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  • The_Equalizer
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    Originally posted by scooterscot View Post
    You do know what the N in SNP stands for don't you?
    Not quite the point I was making. His language is used to inflame and be generally underhanded. Perhaps a common tactic by those chippy nationalist?

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  • scooterscot
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    Originally posted by The_Equalizer View Post
    I would rather he tried to get what he wants based on the merits of his ideas instead of being a sly old sod and try and wind people up. Perhaps that is the problem.
    You're anger is allowing you to miss the point.

    Last I was living at home there's the feeling quality of life is improving. Tolls on bridges removed, frozen council tax small stuff that's too numerous to count. But that's exactly the point for the short time they've been in power and why they've even gained more seats in the last election regardless of their ultimate agenda. People can see change for them more than they ever did from previous governments.

    I think the same would be true if London parliament focused on London, oh wait it already does that and only that.

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  • The_Equalizer
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    Originally posted by Doggy Styles View Post
    I don't have a problem with that. After all, his long-term policy is Scotland's independence and he knows he's got a lot of spadework to do on hearts and minds.
    I would rather he tried to get what he wants based on the merits of his ideas instead of being a sly old sod and try and wind people up. Perhaps that is the problem.

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  • scooterscot
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    Originally posted by The_Equalizer View Post
    I've noticed that Salmond uses divisive language similar to that of Sinn Fein's leaders. He'll often emphasise the word Scotland with the subtext of meaning 'not the United Kingdom' and refer to parliament as Westminster government or London.
    You do know what the N in SNP stands for don't you?
    Last edited by scooterscot; 21 November 2011, 13:05.

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  • Doggy Styles
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    Originally posted by The_Equalizer View Post
    I've noticed that Salmond uses divisive language similar to that of Sinn Fein's leaders. He'll often emphasise the word Scotland with the subtext of meaning 'not the United Kingdom' and refer to parliament as Westminster government or London.
    I don't have a problem with that. After all, his long-term policy is Scotland's independence and he knows he's got a lot of spadework to do on hearts and minds.

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  • The_Equalizer
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    Originally posted by Arturo Bassick View Post
    It is a very clever ploy by Alex Salmond. He knows he will never get a majority vote in Scotland for devolution. By introducing all these freebies in Scotland he is cajoling the English to demand Scotland is cut loose. This resentment from the English will persuade more Scots to vote for independence.

    Oddly, it may also be his undoing. The Scots having a propensity to automatically gainsay anything the English propose would probably vote against devolution if the English insisted.
    I've noticed that Salmond uses divisive language similar to that of Sinn Fein's leaders. He'll often emphasise the word Scotland with the subtext of meaning 'not the United Kingdom' and refer to parliament as Westminster government or London.

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  • Arturo Bassick
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    Originally posted by Doggy Styles View Post
    I'm afraid that's true, that does cause resentment down my way. It wouldn't matter so much if it all came out of Scotch people's taxes.

    It's not most Scottish people's fault though, one can't blame the people for enjoying the advantages. It was a previous government who set it up without thinking it through.

    Which was a trait of theirs.
    It is a very clever ploy by Alex Salmond. He knows he will never get a majority vote in Scotland for devolution. By introducing all these freebies in Scotland he is cajoling the English to demand Scotland is cut loose. This resentment from the English will persuade more Scots to vote for independence.

    Oddly, it may also be his undoing. The Scots having a propensity to automatically gainsay anything the English propose would probably vote against devolution if the English insisted.

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  • Doggy Styles
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    Originally posted by k2p2 View Post
    But the differences in university fees, elderly care, prescription charges does cause resentment. A French student studying in Edinburgh does not pay tuition fees, an English student does.
    I'm afraid that's true, that does cause resentment down my way. It wouldn't matter so much if it all came out of Scotch people's taxes.

    It's not most Scottish people's fault though, one can't blame the people for enjoying the advantages. It was a previous government who set it up without thinking it through.

    Which was a trait of theirs.

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  • Spacecadet
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    Originally posted by Churchill View Post
    I'm assuming that you meant to use the word "seeing".

    As for the rest of your thinly disguised xenophobia, siding with the Germans just because they bailed you out of your sh!thole north of Hadrian's Wall just points out how shallow you really are.
    Oi! you cheeky ******* b*stard! Take that back!

    Not everything north of Hadrians Wall is Scotland

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  • Churchill
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    Originally posted by scooterscot View Post
    Oh dear.. well seen the tories are back in power.
    I'm assuming that you meant to use the word "seeing".

    As for the rest of your thinly disguised xenophobia, siding with the Germans just because they bailed you out of your sh!thole north of Hadrian's Wall just points out how shallow you really are.

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