• Visitors can check out the Forum FAQ by clicking this link. You have to register before you can post: click the REGISTER link above to proceed. To start viewing messages, select the forum that you want to visit from the selection below. View our Forum Privacy Policy.
  • Want to receive the latest contracting news and advice straight to your inbox? Sign up to the ContractorUK newsletter here. Every sign up will also be entered into a draw to WIN £100 Amazon vouchers!
Collapse

You are not logged in or you do not have permission to access this page. This could be due to one of several reasons:

  • You are not logged in. If you are already registered, fill in the form below to log in, or follow the "Sign Up" link to register a new account.
  • You may not have sufficient privileges to access this page. Are you trying to edit someone else's post, access administrative features or some other privileged system?
  • If you are trying to post, the administrator may have disabled your account, or it may be awaiting activation.

Previously on "YOU know who you are"

Collapse

  • AlfredJPruffock
    replied
    Originally posted by threaded
    Spot on. I have noticed, and if you've contracted for any length of time everyone'll know I'm right: the higher the rate you're paid the less work you have to do.
    This is a profound truth,I used to toil in sweatshops such as Fish Factories and Steelworks and was paid very little.

    I then managed, God knows how, to blag my way in to the world of IT,from being a Printer Operator where I had to work long hours for little pay, then after some time an IBM systems programmer, where I did little and received great pay.

    Alas ... post mainframe world I had to lower myself to the world of client server and what a folly I found here,but the pay was moderate, then I became a consultatnt and instead of working I simply talked about work.

    And the pay was great, and the Lord saw it was good.

    Alas !

    Then all the consultancy jobs vanished as companys tightened their belts and a weeping and gnashing of teeth was heard from Alfs house.

    And now Alf has been reduced to working all day under the Sun, banished from the world of riches and consultancys and forced to toil under the tyranny of the Technical Helpdesk.

    And the Lord looked down on Alf , and Alf did sayeth Oh Lord you are a rotten B@stard


    And the moneys no good
    Just get a grip on yourself ...

    Leave a comment:


  • XLMonkey
    replied
    Originally posted by BlasterBates
    No you've got it all wrong....now the reason why lazy people get promoted is that managers don't want to be shown up by their subordinates, that's why they promote incompetent people. Its all a big cycle. Company starts off small, everybody is a hardworking genius then over time managers come in and promote people that are slightl less competent than themselves, now if this were to continue, eventually you would find apes and gorillas in senior positions but the company usually goes bust or gets taken over before the IQ levels get below 50.
    All wrong, we're monkeys; not apes or gorillas

    hth

    Leave a comment:


  • Dundeegeorge
    replied
    Corollary

    Originally posted by BlasterBates
    No you've got it all wrong....now the reason why lazy people get promoted is that managers don't want to be shown up by their subordinates, that's why they promote incompetent people. Its all a big cycle. Company starts off small, everybody is a hardworking genius then over time managers come in and promote people that are slightl less competent than themselves, now if this were to continue, eventually you would find apes and gorillas in senior positions but the company usually goes bust or gets taken over before the IQ levels get below 50.
    Politics.
    There's always enough taxpayers money to spend so the country doesn't go bust or get taken over. (hmnnn, let's think about that for a minute)

    Leave a comment:


  • BlasterBates
    replied
    No you've got it all wrong....now the reason why lazy people get promoted is that managers don't want to be shown up by their subordinates, that's why they promote incompetent people. Its all a big cycle. Company starts off small, everybody is a hardworking genius then over time managers come in and promote people that are slightl less competent than themselves, now if this were to continue, eventually you would find apes and gorillas in senior positions but the company usually goes bust or gets taken over before the IQ levels get below 50.

    Leave a comment:


  • monkeyboy
    replied
    I really have to agree with the previous statement.

    The only proviso is that you have a realistic view of your abilities and don't take that one promotion to far that will expose you for the lazy person you are.

    Leave a comment:


  • dang65
    replied
    Isn't there some quote from someone famous which goes something like, "If you want a job done quickly then give it to a lazy person." Makes sense to me. A lazy person wants to get back to surfing the web or whatever so they find instant short cuts and that's it, job done. And they do it just well enough that they won't have to waste a load of time going back over it later.

    A "conscienscious" worker will drag the same job out for days making sure every aspect is covered, all the documentation up-to-date, meetings held blah blah blah. Which is probably a really good idea if you're building Space Shuttles or something, but in most work scenarios the boss just wants the job done quickly and that's what he sees the lazy person doing well.

    I stumbled across this paradox in the course of a long career as a lazy person, never really understanding why I was kept on during downsizing exercises when other colleagues were leagues ahead of me in skill. Winging it does seem to work quite well, even if you're always live in fear that someone's going to see right through you one day.

    Leave a comment:


  • threaded
    replied
    Originally posted by AlfredJPruffock
    So called slacking indicates a superior intelligence.

    Work is for donkeys, but the so called slacker will be busy socialising and networking and thereby preparing his path for future promotions and pay rises whilst the Donkey workers will receive nothing but the contempt they so richly deserve.

    For those Donkey workers I say, if you are so hard working, how is it you are not rich .
    Spot on. I have noticed, and if you've contracted for any length of time everyone'll know I'm right: the higher the rate you're paid the less work you have to do.

    Leave a comment:


  • Lockhouse
    replied
    The problem is...

    The best people make it look easy...

    Leave a comment:


  • The Lone Gunman
    replied
    Oi! I resemble that remark. As Threaded posted elsewhere, of course I dont look busy I did it right first time. I am good and quick I deliver early and then have time to mess around. Part of my deal is support so I cant go home. I wonder if time surfing can be used as an IR35 indicator of ability to profit?

    Leave a comment:


  • AlfredJPruffock
    replied
    Originally posted by DimPrawn
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/4951164.stm

    In every office or workplace there is usually at least one - the slacker, the lazy so-and-so, the man forever surfing the net, the woman constantly emailing her mates.
    Whatever you wish to call them, the work-shy are seemingly everywhere.

    And most people seem to agree - a recent survey by the Investors in People award scheme found that 75% of the UK's workforce think some of their colleagues are not pulling their weight.

    Worse still, a great many of the slackers appear to be doing very well for themselves.

    Whether through charm, luck, supreme confidence or - as likely - barefaced subterfuge, they have somehow managed to win promotions and rise up through the management ranks.
    Their former colleagues may be left aghast, but the senior bosses think the slacker in question is "the best man for the job", "going places" or "a person you can trust".

    I thank you

    So called slacking indicates a superior intelligence.

    Work is for donkeys, but the so called slacker will be busy socialising and networking and thereby preparing his path for future promotions and pay rises whilst the Donkey workers will receive nothing but the contempt they so richly deserve.

    For those Donkey workers I say, if you are so hard working, how is it you are not rich .

    Leave a comment:


  • DimPrawn
    started a topic YOU know who you are

    YOU know who you are

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/4951164.stm

    In every office or workplace there is usually at least one - the slacker, the lazy so-and-so, the man forever surfing the net, the woman constantly emailing her mates.
    Whatever you wish to call them, the work-shy are seemingly everywhere.

    And most people seem to agree - a recent survey by the Investors in People award scheme found that 75% of the UK's workforce think some of their colleagues are not pulling their weight.

    Worse still, a great many of the slackers appear to be doing very well for themselves.

    Whether through charm, luck, supreme confidence or - as likely - barefaced subterfuge, they have somehow managed to win promotions and rise up through the management ranks.
    Their former colleagues may be left aghast, but the senior bosses think the slacker in question is "the best man for the job", "going places" or "a person you can trust".

    I thank you
Working...
X