Reply to: Bloody client keeps dropping me in the deep end.

[d000hg]

Still being rebuffed by the verger's wife?

Do try to at least read the thread before replying. You make no sense.

[d000hg]

Scrubs up well.

[Old Greg]

Still being rebuffed by the verger's wife?

[mudskipper]

Who is she?

Your bird.

[russell]

Your bird.

Errrr ok d000gh, is it not past your bedtime, school tomorrow.

[bless 'em all]

Who is she?

Blossom.

HTH

[d000hg]

Who is she?

Your bird.

[russell]

Who is she?

[d000hg]

She has a Phd and is a research fellow.

[TheFaQQer]

She has a Phd and is a research fellow.

PhD

Unless you mean "she" has a pretty huge dick, which wouldn't surprise me.

[Freamon]

She has a Phd and is a research fellow.

Do you get a lot of jokes about marrying a fellow?

[TestMangler]

She has a Phd and is a research fellow.

That explains it then. She's writing a thesis.......

[MarillionFan]

A similar thing has happened to me on a couple of occasions, both with the same company. The first time I was a permie, they were a software house but I only lasted 9 months before moving back to contracting. They'd sold a database management application which linked into the OS management application as they both had the same base code. Sales had told them they they could control everything from one central point of control which was a rather big white lie and I ended up being the numpty placed onsite to write massive amounts of code to do the job without actually knowing very much about what they wanted. The customer (an absolutely huge media company) was actually quite nice to me knowing it wasn't my fault but as a representative I was taking the blame. I'd drive 400 odd km in tulipty winter weather, work all day and if lucky stay overnight otherwise it was back home and wait for the phone call saying that they wanted more.

The second time was they had sold a webserver application to a company in Amsterdam saying that this was the be all and end all to web enabling all their applications which were output on various devices and it would only take a couple of weeks. The troubles were twofold, first they had blatantly fudged the difference between web-enabling and web-enhancing and secondly they had no-one to do it which is where I came in. There was only one contractor in the whole of EMEA who knew the product, which was me, and they also gave me this crap. Upon arriving at the customer (one of Hollands most important transport companies) I found out they had been slightly mislead. I had over 120 applications to convert and after 6 weeks on-site had only finished the first and easiest. Many meetings held with customer management and the Dutch arm of the software company where it was pointed out that the German pre-sales had misled them. I left with a hefty amount in my bank as they paid a walloping rate plus expenses.

The interesting thing is that 'lies' were both told by the same person from the software company with whom I once shared an office with. The person I replaced I left because he had the same problems with him and then I replaced him when I left the software company to go contracting as he was finishing the contract. My replacement apparently didn't last long either and the bloke is still there...

I will admit I've been thrown in the deep end many a time just because I've said yes, mainly as the subject sounds interesting and a hefty dose of RTFM'ing cured that and now have a massive portfolio of crap skills

As it happens, I don;t mind being dropped in the deep end. I'm one of lifes floaters, probably to being a bit lardy these days. What pisses me off though, are the twats above you who drop in the tulip. When I'm managing I don't do it to people and so expect the same level back. But that's the thing with contracting, the people who hire you think nothing of dropping someone in from a great height with the knowledge that they'll work it out/represent them. They'd never do it to a perm member of staff.

That's why we get paid more.

[darmstadt]

A similar thing has happened to me on a couple of occasions, both with the same company. The first time I was a permie, they were a software house but I only lasted 9 months before moving back to contracting. They'd sold a database management application which linked into the OS management application as they both had the same base code. Sales had told them they they could control everything from one central point of control which was a rather big white lie and I ended up being the numpty placed onsite to write massive amounts of code to do the job without actually knowing very much about what they wanted. The customer (an absolutely huge media company) was actually quite nice to me knowing it wasn't my fault but as a representative I was taking the blame. I'd drive 400 odd km in tulipty winter weather, work all day and if lucky stay overnight otherwise it was back home and wait for the phone call saying that they wanted more.

The second time was they had sold a webserver application to a company in Amsterdam saying that this was the be all and end all to web enabling all their applications which were output on various devices and it would only take a couple of weeks. The troubles were twofold, first they had blatantly fudged the difference between web-enabling and web-enhancing and secondly they had no-one to do it which is where I came in. There was only one contractor in the whole of EMEA who knew the product, which was me, and they also gave me this crap. Upon arriving at the customer (one of Hollands most important transport companies) I found out they had been slightly mislead. I had over 120 applications to convert and after 6 weeks on-site had only finished the first and easiest. Many meetings held with customer management and the Dutch arm of the software company where it was pointed out that the German pre-sales had misled them. I left with a hefty amount in my bank as they paid a walloping rate plus expenses.

The interesting thing is that 'lies' were both told by the same person from the software company with whom I once shared an office with. The person I replaced I left because he had the same problems with him and then I replaced him when I left the software company to go contracting as he was finishing the contract. My replacement apparently didn't last long either and the bloke is still there...

I will admit I've been thrown in the deep end many a time just because I've said yes, mainly as the subject sounds interesting and a hefty dose of RTFM'ing cured that and now have a massive portfolio of crap skills

[Old Greg]

That what they all say

He'll whack it all up his nose.