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I hate overtaking cyclists on single-lane roads. Dangerous for all concerned.
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Originally posted by darmstadt View PostWhy do many cyclists insist on riding on the road when there is perfectly usable cycle lane right next to it for them to use?
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Originally posted by bobspud View PostI think its an English problem actually.
When I worked in Holland the cyclists are far better behaved, and in that country drivers are automatically responsible for any accident involving a cyclist. It doesn't matter what the facts were. If you have a car with better brakes, a faster engine and airbags, it is your duty to keep the cyclist out of danger. I drove there for several months and was amazed how well they behave considering they could cause multi car pile ups with impunity...
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Originally posted by darmstadt View PostWhy do many cyclists insist on riding on the road when there is perfectly usable cycle lane right next to it for them to use?
Second - they usually stop for each minor junction meaning you don't have the right of way as you do on the main road.
And lastly, on the road you hope that drivers are at least aware of you, unlike Muppets pushing prams without looking where they're going.
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Originally posted by Notascooby View Post
Why are cars allowed to park in cycle lanes, the same cycle lane that is usually un-rideable as there's weeks worth of crap or massive sunken ironwork holes, or a transit parked in it?
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I think its an English problem actually.
When I worked in Holland the cyclists are far better behaved, and in that country drivers are automatically responsible for any accident involving a cyclist. It doesn't matter what the facts were. If you have a car with better brakes, a faster engine and airbags, it is your duty to keep the cyclist out of danger. I drove there for several months and was amazed how well they behave considering they could cause multi car pile ups with impunity...
I don't know why otherwise normal people turn into self obsessed winkers just by getting on a bike. I watched amazed last summer as a bird on a vintage bike and a nice frilly dress just flounced across the Haymarket roundabout in london between a Bus and an aggregates lorry. She didn't have a care in the world headphones on and sat in the blind spots of 10-15 tonnes of large vehicles and almost under my wheels... I doubt that you couldn't beat any sense into her if you tried. the default attitude seems to be "But its sunny and I'm on my bike..."
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Originally posted by Arturo Bassick View PostCycle lanes are somewhat of an afterthought in the UK. They have been pushed in to the most unsuitable places just for Government to claim to be doing something.
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I got close to hitting a cyclist last night.
The cyclist was riding in the opposite direction on an unlit part of a very narrow lane, he was dressed in black and had no lights, his outline was even darker than the trees. I braked once my lights picked him out. He just rode by as though everything was normal
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Originally posted by Notascooby View PostWhy is there a need to pass a cyclist as quickly as possible, usually putting the car, the on-comming vehicle and the cyclist all at risk?
Originally posted by Notascooby View PostWhy are cars allowed to park in cycle lanes, the same cycle lane that is usually un-rideable as there's weeks worth of crap or massive sunken ironwork holes, or a transit parked in it?
Originally posted by Notascooby View PostCycling in Europe is just a different experience, car owners are far more curtious and considerate (to cyclists at least - to each other they drive like lunitics).
Many cycle lanes are separated from the main carriageway which makes them much safer.
The UK needs a rethink and remodel of its cycle routes. It also needs an attitude shift by drivers and cyclists alike.Last edited by Arturo Bassick; 17 January 2012, 09:53.
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Originally posted by Notascooby View PostWhy is there a need to pass a cyclist as quickly as possible, usually putting the car, the on-comming vehicle and the cyclist all at risk?
Originally posted by Notascooby View PostWhy are cars allowed to park in cycle lanes, the same cycle lane that is usually un-rideable as there's weeks worth of crap or massive sunken ironwork holes, or a transit parked in it?
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I cycle nearly every day, sometimes taking a few "chances" but generally obeying the law and certainly not putting anyone at risk.
I've been knocked off my bike in both UK capitals and it's always been vehicles turning. Either overtaking you at speed just so they can cut across you whilst turning left, or turning right, literally right into me. I've ended up on the bonnets of car drivers that "just didn't see me" despite there being no other traffic and bright daylight.
One time snapping my lovely carbon frame, which resulted in a hefty insurance claim for the poor woman.
I do have full legal cover too, which is a good threat against insurance companies as they know if you use it, the cost will be at least £5K just to cover their fees!
No my rants are....
Why is there a need to pass a cyclist as quickly as possible, usually putting the car, the on-comming vehicle and the cyclist all at risk?
Why are cars allowed to park in cycle lanes, the same cycle lane that is usually un-rideable as there's weeks worth of crap or massive sunken ironwork holes, or a transit parked in it?
Something to remember, most cyclists own one or many cars.
Cycling in Europe is just a different experience, car owners are far more curtious and considerate (to cyclists at least - to each other they drive like lunitics).
Right....best do some work.
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