Reply to: No to 70 million

[TimberWolf]

Not everybody have the intellectual capabilities to achieve decent education (sasguru is an exception, he's a moron with some education, he might have found his diploma in a Kinder egg?)

What's wrong with cleaning the street, collecting garbage, or working on a construction site? If it was paid decently it's quite possible that britain would not have to resort to using foreign labour to do the jobs - and to pay benefits to turn the less intellectually capable into chavs.

Exactly. Many people don't think capitalism should apply to poor people and poorly paying jobs. If the market were free to set the rate, there would no shortage of people queuing up to do the work.

[Mich the Tester]

Free education? Have you not heard of tuition fees?

Yes, unfortunately, and I'm not in favour of them; a bad idea that undermines people's own responsibility to make the best they can of their chances.

[Mich the Tester]

Not to mention to have their kid becoming a minority in their own country.
English-speaking children are a minority in inner-city London schools | Mail Online

but you would not care would you? your kids are probably in a school which is not too affected by "diversity"

I don't have children; I did, happily, go to schools with 'diversity', which perhaps explains why I'm not allergic to 'diversity'; I learnt the skills to make the best of it at an early age.

No, I don't care.

[Mich the Tester]

Not everybody have the intellectual capabilities to achieve decent education (sasguru is an exception, he's a moron with some education, he might have found his diploma in a Kinder?)

What's wrong with cleaning the street, collecting garbage, or working on a construction site? If it was paid decently it's quite possible that britain would not have to resort to using foreign labour to do the jobs - and to pay benefits to turn the less intellectually capable into chavs.

Look, a 'decent education' does not necessarily imply going to university to study astrophysics. Are you really suggesting that so many of those unemployed people could not have trained to become plumbers, bricklayers, welders, firemen or truck drivers, none of which are low paid jobs?

[Le Rosbif]

...who could have made use of the extensive free or subsidized education and training possibilities offered by the British government to get themselves good qualifications, but would rather whinge and whine about foreigners, many of whom were never offered the same chances, and then blame other people for their problems rather than get off their arses and get their own bloody lives in order.

Not to mention to have their kid becoming a minority in their own country.
English-speaking children are a minority in inner-city London schools | Mail Online

but you would not care would you? your kids are probably in a school which is not too affected by "diversity"

[Le Rosbif]

...who could have made use of the extensive free or subsidized education and training possibilities offered by the British government to get themselves good qualifications, but would rather whinge and whine about foreigners, many of whom were never offered the same chances, and then blame other people for their problems rather than get off their arses and get their own bloody lives in order.

Not everybody have the intellectual capabilities to achieve decent education (sasguru is an exception, he's a moron with some education, he might have found his diploma in a Kinder egg?)

What's wrong with cleaning the street, collecting garbage, or working on a construction site? If it was paid decently it's quite possible that britain would not have to resort to using foreign labour to do the jobs - and to pay benefits to turn the less intellectually capable into chavs.

[Jeff Maginty]

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[MarillionFan]

immigration is the reserve army of capitalism

That's why those who promote it like labour are the "useful idiots" of the system.

It's easier to import cheap labour than to pay decent wages. And then to blame the english worker for not be "willing to do demeaning jobs".

ftfy

The British have a whollier than thou attitude. Almost as if their shit: smells better than other people in the world.

Britains welfare system is a disgrace, without it, litter pickers, toilet cleaners, car washers etc would be British born, not foreign born. If you don't want to do a low paid job, get an education or work yourself up.

Big kickup the arse needed.

[Mich the Tester]

It's easier to import cheap labour than to pay decent wages. And then to blame the english worker for not be "willing to do tough jobs".

...who could have made use of the extensive free or subsidized education and training possibilities offered by the British government to get themselves good qualifications, but would rather whinge and whine about foreigners, many of whom were never offered the same chances, and then blame other people for their problems rather than get off their arses and get their own bloody lives in order.

[Le Rosbif]

I don't think it means they have to debate it at all. Unless they changed it in the last few weeks, they still need an MP to 'sponsor' the debate and the MPs complain they aren't allocated any extra time to look at the public petitions.

immigration is the reserve army of capitalism

That's why those who promote it like labour are the "useful idiots" of the system.

It's easier to import cheap labour than to pay decent wages. And then to blame the english worker for not be "willing to do tough jobs".

[sasguru]

I reckon England increases it's population so it can say it spends less per head than Scotland on vital public services.

I reckon when the Krauts realise you're really thick they'll terminate your contract.

[d000hg]

Top rated poll on that site:

Convicted London rioters should loose [sic] all benefits. 249,641 votes

Convicted London rioters should loose all benefits. - e-petitions

Which means the government now have to debate loose benefits.

I don't think it means they have to debate it at all. Unless they changed it in the last few weeks, they still need an MP to 'sponsor' the debate and the MPs complain they aren't allocated any extra time to look at the public petitions.

[shaunbhoy]

Which means the government now have to debate loose benefits.

What exactly are "loose" benefits? Are they anything like tight benefits?

[scooterscot]

What's the point of these petitions? You all sign up for a EU referendum and it gets abolished.

I reckon England increases it's population so it can say it spends less per head than Scotland on vital public services.

[TimberWolf]

Top rated poll on that site:

Convicted London rioters should loose [sic] all benefits. 249,641 votes

Convicted London rioters should loose all benefits. - e-petitions

Which means the government now have to debate loose benefits.