Reply to: Loads of jobs no one wants them

[MarillionFan]

I'm not you thankfully, now go and fetch a stick or sniff some gold.

ftfy

Rich! Rich I tell yeah!

[russell]

Sorry, I'm having trouble placing you. Who the **** are you again?

I'm not you thankfully, now go and fetch a stick or sniff some tulip.

[TheFaQQer]

Agents could save themselves and us a lot of time by not trying to recruit at stupid rates. Considering the time (and therefore cash) that agents I know have spent trying to fill unfillable gigs recently it'd be cheaper for them to pay the difference in rate ! Any decent agent ought to tell the client when what they are offering isn't sensible.

The really frustrating thing was I began the negotiation about rate with "they won't pay what I want them to pay". I then ummed and ahhed about whether to bother applying for the role, as it's not exactly what I want to be doing, decided to do it, and then was WAY too expensive for their completely unrealistic budget.

So, in the meantime (and they've been looking for at least 2 years now), they're paying a contractor to act as an interim manager. Worst bit is I was up for that role when it started, but went elsewhere instead!

[Peoplesoft bloke]

My favourite - and the top-rated comment -


"This is total tripe. I'm an employer and most of the candidates I see are so desperate for work, I've had people in tears when I ring them to tell them they were unsuccessful ! This is just another way for the media to turn opinion against people on benefit and it is sickening, not everyone who claims is lazy!.. and most who are on benefits are struggling.. could you live on £50 per week? With only half a million vacancies in the UK against 2.75 million people unemployed there is NOT a job for everyone, in fact there are 5 people for every free job, right now.. today! and a large number of those jobs people will not be qualified for due to years of government pushing sub standard education! So before people go passing judgement on the unemployed perhaps if they took time out to speak to these people they would realise how many people want to work but how there is simply not enough jobs for them to take! If i could take more people on, I would!! seriously it is heartbreaking!"

[russell]

Sorry, I'm having trouble placing you. Who the **** are you again?

It's no surprise you don't know me, I operate in circles a few levels above you.

I am russell.

[Peoplesoft bloke]

Not quite to that extent, but yes

Agent rang me about a permie job, no travel, near home recently. I said they wouldn't pay what I wanted. He gave me a range, and I said I wanted £10k more than the top, but could be flexible.

Rang back the following week with the news that they wanted to get two people, so the most they could offer was £5k below the low end of the range.

Agents could save themselves and us a lot of time by not trying to recruit at stupid rates. Considering the time (and therefore cash) that agents I know have spent trying to fill unfillable gigs recently it'd be cheaper for them to pay the difference in rate ! Any decent agent ought to tell the client when what they are offering isn't sensible.

[Churchill]

At £9p/h you will get a Bob who will speak very little English and know very little about programming.

Sorry, I'm having trouble placing you. Who the **** are you again?

[russell]

Nah he's the great unwashed that thinks anyone can program a computer. Mind you at £9 an hour you will definitely get what you deserve.

At £9p/h you will get a Bob who will speak very little English and know very little about programming.

[TheFaQQer]

You've had that done to you too, haven't you?

Stings, don't it?

Not quite to that extent, but yes

Agent rang me about a permie job, no travel, near home recently. I said they wouldn't pay what I wanted. He gave me a range, and I said I wanted £10k more than the top, but could be flexible.

Rang back the following week with the news that they wanted to get two people, so the most they could offer was £5k below the low end of the range.

[eek]

From the comments:





He's probably a recruitment agent

Nah he's the great unwashed that thinks anyone can program a computer. Mind you at £9 an hour you will definitely get what you deserve.

[russell]

From the comments:





He's probably a recruitment agent

Would a Doctor or Lawyer take £9p/h? Software Engineers are professional workers and are middle class so deserve at least 50k or £40p/h.

[DimPrawn]

Comfortable desk job that can be done anywhere in the world.



Indeed. By the same token it means you can work for any company in the world, including the very wealthy ones paying a lot more than £9/hr.

Globalisation works both ways, if they won't pay decent money in this country, work for an offshore company or emigrate.

[Bunk]

From the comments:

You're not going to get a computer programmer for 9-10 pound an hour, thats why the position isnt being filled. - James, West midlands, 20/10/2011 9:29

Oh, why not? There is nothing special about programing a computer. Comfortable desk job that can be done anywhere in the world. As a starting salary I think it is fine and hopefully those with ambition and a good work ethic would then have salary increases in line with the value they give to the employer. However, they have to prove their worth first with hard work, which never hurt anyone.
- Pete, Petersfield, 20/10/2011 10:26

He's probably a recruitment agent

[eek]

I'm having a chat with a company in Manchester at the moment that have put £80k on the table.

To be honest I'm not interested. I'm probably the only person in the area with the skill set and unless they offered 75% more and decided to move to the village I live in I can't see the point of working for them.

Especially as my plan b looks rather essential to the next stage of their plans.

[Churchill]

Their opening line will be "this is what you think you're worth..." before removing £60k and explaining the reality of the situation

You've had that done to you too, haven't you?

Stings, don't it?