Reply to: Senna

[Zoiderman]

No

The film was too much of a homage to leave any room for criticism

Which is my issue with it to be frank.

He was a feckin dangerous son of abitch who was marked to die early, in my book, from the moment I saw him in F3.

Barcelona in '91 (maybe '92) when he was trying to scare Mansell by steering towards him at over 200 mph. And people have the temerity to suggest Hamilton is dangerous...

As for the loss of stability comment, all they had done was ban active aero and active suspension, due to Newey designing a car, were it not for reliability, that was capable of winning everything it entered. Without the active suspension, it was not a match for the B194 of Schumacher (which also didn't have these driver aids). Senna wanted to drive for Williams as he'd seen what the FW14 and FW14b were like and he thought the FW15 would be a shoe in for the title that year. It wasn't, and he was over driving it.

Two things killed him: his belief he wasn't mortal in some kind of way, and his belief that his skill transcended the ability of the car. That's my view.

Jim Clark proved you can win the WDC and be a nice guy. As did many others.

[Spacecadet]

Did the film have the incident when Mansell pinned Senna up against a pit-wall for his dangerous driving?

No

The film was too much of a homage to leave any room for criticism

[Doggy Styles]

Did the film have the incident when Mansell pinned Senna up against a pit-wall for his dangerous driving?

[bobspud]

Senna didn't die because he was driving like a dick. He was killed was because the FIA banned the use of stabilty aids from the cars after they were designed and built. The Williams car was completely unstable without the traction aids, and frankly those guys must have had balls of steel to drive those cars. They spent more time in the air than stuck to the ground. I had watched the film yesterday afternoon then swapped over to the F1 highlights and the amount of stability that the new cars have over the 80's and 90's cars is amazing...

[d000hg]

Nope, possibly stupid of you to have got involved in an argument that didn't exist. Unless you know differently, opinions don't necessarily have to be the same, so to comment on mine, incorrectly, was excessively stupid of you.

Glad to have cleared that up for you.

You do love the "opinions don't have to be the same" card, don't you? It's about as strong a defence as an SS guard's "we were following orders".

[Zoiderman]

Eh? It's still a smiley, anyway don't be so sensitive.

Russell, I wasn't, to be frank, it was more a 'get you and your signs'. But, I guess that was missed in the other chaps wish to mistake what I actually said. You calling me a didn't register; the roofer gives me more versatile insults.

[russell]

Oh, so the was imagined?

Sorry about that

Eh? It's still a smiley, anyway don't be so sensitive.

[Zoiderman]

You do know that the reason for his death was mechanical failure? Or was that his fault too? He turned the wheel to hard.

Alas, no, it wasn't imagined...

[Zoiderman]

If you think using a certain smiley is aggressive then I can only suggest you quit the knitting club and take up martial arts.

Oh, so the was imagined?

Sorry about that

[russell]

And nor do I, I don't think I have suggested it either, just that he was overly aggressive.

Again, whoosh, right over that scone of yours....

If you think using a certain smiley is aggressive then I can only suggest you quit the knitting club and take up martial arts.

[Zoiderman]

If it makes you happy to have won an argument in which nobody else was involved, you take that victory and cherish it. Glad to have helped.

Nope, possibly stupid of you to have got involved in an argument that didn't exist. Unless you know differently, opinions don't necessarily have to be the same, so to comment on mine, incorrectly, was excessively stupid of you.

Glad to have cleared that up for you.

[d000hg]

And nor do I, I don't think I have suggested it either, just that he was overly aggressive.

Again, whoosh, right over that scone of yours....

If it makes you happy to have won an argument in which nobody else was involved, you take that victory and cherish it. Glad to have helped.

[Zoiderman]

Missed opportunity there. Could have made yourself a cool £4.99.

F1 CHAMPION LEGEND NIGEL MANSELL SIGNED 12 X 8 PHOTO vettel button hamilton | eBay

That's why he said he charged for autographs now.

[dang65]

Mansell tried to charge me £15 for his autograph a while back

Missed opportunity there. Could have made yourself a cool £4.99.

F1 CHAMPION LEGEND NIGEL MANSELL SIGNED 12 X 8 PHOTO vettel button hamilton | eBay

[Zoiderman]

I don't think russell is a professional driver.

And nor do I, I don't think I have suggested it either, just that he was overly aggressive.

Again, whoosh, right over that scone of yours....