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So, you're a recruitment consultant. Towards which placement will you steer your candidates: the one that gets you 30% of their year's salary up front, or the one that gets you 15% drip by drip?
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Originally posted by Peoplesoft bloke View PostHilariously he followed up our conversation within 7 days by sending me a role that was slightly more challenging and had a lower salary still. I actually asked WTF and he said "the role is working alongside people earning similar salaries, so to bring someone in at your level would cause a riot"
Mind you we do seen to be getting bob agents who don't understand you really do get what you pay for.
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Originally posted by rd409 View PostI've had few calls like that as well. My reply is sweet. Well if my take home does not get affected, I don't mind going permanent. Whey they ask what would be my expected salary range, I quote 85-90k. I am not surprised, that the conversation does not get any further than that.
After all, that's what you'd get as a trader. Why should I settle for anything less for making those demented systems possible in the first place?
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I am in a permie gig at present for strategic reasons, not "shelter"/hiding and I although I took a drop, it wasn't much of one.
I had a hilarious exchange with a recuriter who has written to me twice recently offering a job that is an almost exact match for my (niche) skills but at a way lower salary. The first time I explained to him that I was earning quite a bit more than that already and I thought he'd struggle to get anyone at that rate.
Hilariously he followed up our conversation within 7 days by sending me a role that was slightly more challenging and had a lower salary still. I actually asked WTF and he said "the role is working alongside people earning similar salaries, so to bring someone in at your level would cause a riot" Well, fine, but that's like going to the Apple store and saying "I've only got fifty quid but I really need an iPad" - it's not going to happen.
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Originally posted by craig1 View PostA good point there... I'm getting far too many calls recently from agencies that are ignoring the indication that I'm contractor only. "Are you sure we can't tempt you to apply for this job? It's an excellent salary with excellent progression potential!"
I had one last night asking if I'd relocate to Birmingham for a permie job as my CV profile says I'll take a contract anywhere in the UK, rate dependent.
I suppose there must be desperate contractors out there somewhere to make this worth the agent's time and grief they get from contractors telling them politely to leave them alone.
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A good point there... I'm getting far too many calls recently from agencies that are ignoring the indication that I'm contractor only. "Are you sure we can't tempt you to apply for this job? It's an excellent salary with excellent progression potential!"
I had one last night asking if I'd relocate to Birmingham for a permie job as my CV profile says I'll take a contract anywhere in the UK, rate dependent.
I suppose there must be desperate contractors out there somewhere to make this worth the agent's time and grief they get from contractors telling them politely to leave them alone.
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Originally posted by Cr1spy View PostDo you prefer to crap at work or in the confort of your own home?
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Originally posted by Cr1spy View PostBeen speaking to a few agents recently (as you do) and the general consensus is that there is currently a swing towards hiring permanent staff over contractors.
I've certainly had a lot more fishing calls from permanent recruiters than contract ones.
Is this wide spread at the moment? Or just .Net financials contracts?
I'd agreed. But I'm a freelancer, not one of those pretend contractors who seeks shelter when things get tough.
They'll never take me alive.
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Originally posted by Cr1spy View PostBeen speaking to a few agents recently (as you do) and the general consensus is that there is currently a swing towards hiring permanent staff over contractors.
I've certainly had a lot more fishing calls from permanent recruiters than contract ones.
Is this wide spread at the moment? Or just .Net financials contracts?
Always assumed that in times of austerity, clients preferred disposable contractors.
I think companies have projects with very tight budgets, so they are hiring permies at lower cost, knowing in the current climate they can get rid of them at the end of the project.
I think companies hire contractors in the good times, they may cost more but are less trouble for managers, no reviews etc.
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Current market: Contractors vs. Permies
Been speaking to a few agents recently (as you do) and the general consensus is that there is currently a swing towards hiring permanent staff over contractors.
I've certainly had a lot more fishing calls from permanent recruiters than contract ones.
Is this wide spread at the moment? Or just .Net financials contracts?
Always assumed that in times of austerity, clients preferred disposable contractors.
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Just notice I posted this in general rather than Business. So as an admendmen to make it more "general":
Also: Do you prefer to crap at work or in the confort of your own home?
[/edit]Last edited by Cr1spy; 6 October 2011, 12:24.Tags: None
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