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Previously on "Typical Grauniad propaganda"

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  • doodab
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    I think it's a good idea. There has been a trend to reduce taxes on certain types of income and higher incomes for quite a while, supposedly to encourage entrepreneurs and make everyone richer. Aside from the fact that this doesn't seem to have worked particularly well or made a huge difference to our economic prospects (we are still ****ed after all) it's biased the tax system in favour of those who are already wealthy, causing a widening of the inequality in society (which is bad for everyone, rich and poor, as crime and health suffer and society gets poorer by most non financial measures) and put the squeeze on the middle classes who have picked up the tax shortfall.

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  • d000hg
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    Originally posted by MarillionFan View Post
    I don't need a wacko jacko Isle of Man proof scheme not to pay tax. I just don't pay tax.

    Or VAT for that.

    120% take home.
    There is only one income value you can easily have 120% take-home. I don't think anyone is surprised you're pulling in that particular number

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  • Doggy Styles
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    The whole thing was a tedious rant. What was the summary?

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  • AtW
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    Originally posted by DodgyAgent View Post
    Well look who has popped out from under his stone! Why it is good old pooperscoop that well known wealthy contractor who lives beyond the reach of the Uk taxman.
    so pooperscoop why is that so "really good" and what does it have to do with challenging how taxpayers money is spent?
    WHS^2

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  • DodgyAgent
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    Originally posted by scooterscot View Post
    Really good quote on the Guardian
    Well look who has popped out from under his stone! Why it is good old pooperscoop that well known wealthy contractor who lives beyond the reach of the Uk taxman.
    so pooperscoop why is that so "really good" and what does it have to do with challenging how taxpayers money is spent?

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  • DimPrawn
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    The uber-rich neoliberal banking clique have benefitted from bailouts that kept their money making system from collapsing into the chasm of debt they had created. Now they are enriching themselves by short selling sovreign debt before their self fulfilling prophecies about iminent downgrades come true and brazenly chelping away that ordinary people need to suffer more "austerity" because their governments have too many debts.



    When I read that it really makes me stop and think......Jammy b@stards!

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  • scooterscot
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    Originally posted by DodgyAgent View Post
    Why is it that no one questions how tax is spent?
    Really good quote on the Guardian

    Ask yourself who are the beneficiaries of these increasingly dramatic fluctuations in the market?

    Hint: The unregulated speculative derivatives market is estimated to be worth 20x the GDP of the entire World.

    there's vastly more money invested in bets about whether the market is going to go up or down than is invested in actually making or doing things in the "real economy".

    In the UK a national debt of 576bn (58% of GDP) borrowed to spend on all kinds of beneficial stuff like universal healthcare, universal education, the military, infrastructure projects, science, research subsidies, policing, welfare, local services, libraries, foreign aid, industrial support and even a few ill advised and not very beneficial foreign invasions, while the sum just handed over to the banks to pay down their appalling gambling debts (which are conveniently and misleadingly excluded from the national debt calculations) is £1,376bn (91% of GDP), this doesn't even take into account the economically destructive consequences of holding interest rates artificially low for years and a £250bn money printing scam (quantitative easing).

    All of the major political parties have been infiltrated by neoliberal influences and they are queueing up to shaft ordinary working & taxpaying people with the great neoliberal lie that "the state has been spending too much on welfare, healthcare, education and other services" when our governments have blasted far more on propping up the corruption riddled, unstable and transparently defective economic system built on hardline neoliberalism.

    The uber-rich neoliberal banking clique have benefitted from bailouts that kept their money making system from collapsing into the chasm of debt they had created. Now they are enriching themselves by short selling sovreign debt before their self fulfilling prophecies about iminent downgrades come true and brazenly chelping away that ordinary people need to suffer more "austerity" because their governments have too many debts.

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  • AlfredJPruffock
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    Originally posted by DodgyAgent View Post
    Why is it that no one questions how tax is spent?
    Curious as to why you might think that - au contraire I have always been very interested in how tax payers money is - to use the NLSoeak - '"Invested"

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  • AtW
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    Originally posted by MarillionFan View Post
    120% take home.


    I assume this scheme is retrospection proof. After all the last time it happened was like back in stone age.

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  • MarillionFan
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    Originally posted by AtW View Post
    Nobody is paying tax on here, thanks to some wacko jacko Isle of Man bullet proof scheme
    I don't need a wacko jacko Isle of Man proof scheme not to pay tax. I just don't pay tax.

    Or VAT for that.

    120% take home.

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  • DimPrawn
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    Originally posted by DodgyAgent View Post
    Why is it that no one questions how tax is spent?
    It is never spent, it is always "invested". Ask Gordon.

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  • AtW
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    Originally posted by DodgyAgent View Post
    Why is it that no one questions how tax is spent?
    Nobody is paying tax on here, thanks to some wacko jacko Isle of Man bullet proof scheme

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  • DodgyAgent
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    Why is it that no one questions how tax is spent?

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  • Ruprect
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    Originally posted by DimPrawn View Post
    Yes, all wealthy people want 100% tax rates so they can live in a high rise in Croydon like ordinary people, rather than sail the world in super yachts and dine at the finest restaurants.

    Who the **** reads that tripe "newspaper"?

    s of the lowest order.
    only for the cricket...

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  • DimPrawn
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    Yes, all wealthy people want 100% tax rates so they can live in a high rise in Croydon like ordinary people, rather than sail the world in super yachts and dine at the finest restaurants.

    Who the **** reads that tripe "newspaper"?

    s of the lowest order.

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