Reply to: Engineering in the UK

[scooterscot]

But, but, that nice Mr Dyson said there's a shortage of engineers wot can do that sort of thing.

He's right.

Most math/engineering grad's I meet are still wet behind the ears with no real engineering experience. Hopeless.

You need some early hands on / apprentice experience prior to academia for the big bucks.
(Or demonstrate to the client that you have)

The UK does not give a flying toot about such schemes instead opting for the easier path of using the vaunted city financiers to provide for a generous benefit system. Utopia.

[conned tractor]

In the UK yes.

In euroland no. Unless €110 p/h is the new low.

Out of interest what kind of engineer are you?

At those rates I'm anything you want me to be baby...see your PMs.



Control algorithm/ Math modelling/ electronics/ low level SW really.....and it's generally tulip pay as demand is low in this country. That's why Plan B is full steam ahead....I might even get it off the ground one day....and leave the UKs engineering to the bobs.

[OwlHoot]

And yet developing and building fusion bombs to blow people and cities to smithereens was done so rapidly, and without the help of German scientists.

Apart from the German scientist prof Edmund Teller, the original Dr Strangelove, who urged development of a fusion bombs in the first place and led the project.

[scooterscot]

Edit: Apart from Einstein, etc. Come to think of it a lot of the nuclear scientists seem to be of Jewish descent.

Edit Edit: A lot of the best weapons out there are not US or UK made, they are Israeli made.

[TimberWolf]

Working on nuclear fusion reactors must be a job for life. I wonder whether we'll see it commercially feasible with our lifetimes, by which I mean more electrical energy is output than energy put in and it's competitively priced compared with other fuels. If so, it'll be a milestone event for mankind. And yet developing and building fusion bombs to blow people and cities to smithereens was done so rapidly, and without the help of German scientists.

Edit: Apart from Einstein, etc. Come to think of it a lot of the nuclear scientists seem to be of Jewish descent.

[TimberWolf]

Working on nuclear fusion reactors must be a job for life. I wonder whether we'll see it commercially feasible with our lifetimes, by which I mean more electrical energy is output than energy put in and it's competitively priced compared with other fuels. If so, it'll be a milestone event for mankind. And yet developing and building fusion bombs to blow people and cities to smithereens was done so rapidly, and without the help of German scientists.

[andyc2000]

Because they are trying to make helium which is 2 protons and 2 neutrons. Hydrogen only has 1 proton so they use deuterium (the expensive stuff) which has 1 proton and 1 neutron.

Do I get a gold star?

[andyc2000]

Does anyone know why they don't use hydrogen in fusion reactors?

Because they are trying to make helium which is 2 protons and 2 neutrons. Hydrogen only has 1 proton so they use deuterium (the expensive stuff) which has 1 proton and 1 neutron.

[swamp]

There are no limits to measure how I feel when such questions are asked.

To compare a subject like engineering with which Britain has a long history dating back hundreds of years to that of IT dating back, what 20 or so years before it was commonly known amongst the general fraternity.

To quote wiki:

"Engineering is the discipline, art, skill and profession of acquiring and applying scientific, mathematical, economic, social, and practical knowledge, in order to design and build structures, machines, devices, systems, materials and processes that safely realise improvements to the lives of people."


IT is nothing more than a service which engineering allowed to exist in the first place.

Ok rant over.

Now to the point of the OP. It is low paid only the UK because the UK has long lost it lustre for inventiveness and fallen in love with finical services. You only need look across the channel to see rates on offer. Holland before Germany for that matter.

WGAF so long as it pays well!

Anyway, engineers are just old men with spanners.

[scooterscot]

Someone had better figure it out soon or I'll be stuck on this goddamn rock for another millennium.

To be technically correct.
We know how to do it, that's not a problem.
We even know how to get more energy out than we put in, no problem.
Sustaining the reaction safely and converting the energy are the challenges.
Oh and the fuel is rather expensive.

Does anyone know why they don't use hydrogen in fusion reactors?

[scooterscot]

Weren't we supposed to all have The Home Fusion Generator by now?

Yes, in 50 years time. Starting from when we figure out how to do it.

[Pondlife]

Weren't we supposed to all have The Home Fusion Generator by now?

Roads? Where we're going, we don't need roads.

[TestMangler]

And we'll all be travelling to work in flying cars...

Bollocks.

And jetpacks. What happened to jetpacks ? I saw them on Tomorrow's World and they said in 10-20 years time, we'd all have one

[Churchill]

He's right, IT is just a tool to do the job and an unsophisticated one too. In the not too distant future do you really think people will be patching up computers or sitting there typing in lines of text ? They will laugh out loud at the way things are setup at the moment.

And we'll all be travelling to work in flying cars...

Bollocks.

[lukemg]

He's right, IT is just a tool to do the job and an unsophisticated one too. In the not too distant future do you really think people will be patching up computers or sitting there typing in lines of text ? They will laugh out loud at the way things are setup at the moment.