Mutiny in the Ranks at Microsoft

[Spacecadet]

Take a look at this open source .NET application, written as a college senior project. 3 devs. 100,000 lines:

Paint.net

It works beautifully and it's got a nice 80-85% of Photoshop functionality.

Thats a really nice program - I installed it yesterday and was able to get some damn good results very quickly

[zathras]

Btw, hows the Office 2007 beta looking - I can't be arsed to screw my laptop up installing it.

Mixed.

The reason I signed up to the Beta was to see how my own applications worked and also to see if you could use

VS2005
VSTO2003
Office2007

I also wanted to try and call my .Net assembly from VBA in Office 2007.

Current project written in Vb.Net/C# crashes Excel when you leave Excel, but in all other respects did work. Now all of a sudden no add-in seems to be working

I'm going to bit the bullet and re-install everything.

As this is my SKA ( (c) ATw ) I've decided to hold off on the Office 2007 version and develop against 2003. Partly because one of the USP's is that people will be familiar with it's use because it's built around Office. The interface in Office 2007 is sufficiently different to nullify that advantage. Also it means I only have to work on the engine which drives it. Not have to learn how to develop against a Beta version of Office.

[threaded]

Alt + F11?

[zathras]

Excel2007 still supports VBA, but you do have to look hard to find where it has been hidden.

Prey tell. Could n't find it.

Very useful for testing as my current project will be a .Net one anyway.

[waggle321]

Excel2007 still supports VBA, but you do have to look hard to find where it has been hidden.

[VectraMan]

BTW, among the comments is the following, which may interest anyone who likes using open source and seeing .NET code samples:

Take a look at this open source .NET application, written as a college senior project. 3 devs. 100,000 lines:

Paint.net

It works beautifully and it's got a nice 80-85% of Photoshop functionality.

I wish people wouldn't write good software for free. It really doesn't help.

[threaded]

I always recommend Microsoft Windows to the competition.

[zathras]

Looks like there's widespread dissatisfaction inside Microsoft about the delays in releasing Windows Vista, if this recent discussion is anything to go by.

<strike>The fun might start when Office 2007 comes out. I've been Beta Testing it and the one thing that seems to be missing is VBA. Can't find it at all.

There is no Tools, Macro option. This leaves just .Net (C# or VB.Net) as the development language

That should slow down take-up in the corporate sector given the investment in macros over the last decade or so.</strike>

Well it seems (and not for the first time ) I'm talking moonshine, still can't find it though.

[Fleetwood]

because of the moduler design

modular

[AtW]

If it was not for Steve Ballmer those guys would not have had (pretty secure and well paid) jobs.

The matter of fact is that release date of Vista won't affect Microsoft's revenues - they will get pretty much the same payment from OEMs for a pre=installed Windows as they do now, its the hardware manufacturers who are stuffed, but then again, would they rather have OS released with buggy drives that don't work well on their hardware?

[threaded]

Considering the legal fights M$ have been in for the last few years, I guess, because of the moduler design, that one could unplug the browser, media player, WHY, from the OS and replace them. This upset the lead microsofties greatly so they told them to go back and swap things about in the various DLLs so it becomes a fairly impossible task.

Remember you heard it here first!

[OwlHoot]

Looks like there's widespread dissatisfaction inside Microsoft about the delays in releasing Windows Vista, if this recent discussion is anything to go by.

If some of those guys had their way, Steve Ballmer would have to start calling himself Steve mer


BTW, among the comments is the following, which may interest anyone who likes using open source and seeing .NET code samples:

Take a look at this open source .NET application, written as a college senior project. 3 devs. 100,000 lines:

Paint.net

It works beautifully and it's got a nice 80-85% of Photoshop functionality.