Originally posted by eek
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I forgot to ask are you opted in or opted out. If you are opted in you could always "transfer" to the new agency at "the clients request".
I still think 5% is going to be pushing it. Personally I would start there and accept 8-10%.
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You have all the cards Russell, no doubt about that. Its a very rare thing to get the inside info, so I dont blame you for trying to max it out
If the agent wont give up 10% I will be suprised
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Originally posted by moorfield View PostI've seen it happen when the HR idiots get involved and decide to dick around with their PSLs and rate agreements - tends only to happen in larger organisations though - don't know what your situation is.
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Originally posted by russell View PostWould a hiring manager want to give up an experienced contractor just so an agency can keep it's ripoff margin?
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Originally posted by moorfield View PostBear in mind also as well as competing / negotiating with the agency you may also be competing against other contractors in the market with similar skills. If the agency can get the next mug and the hiring manager to say yes then you are doomed.
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Bear in mind also as well as competing / negotiating with the agency you may also be competing against other contractors in the market with similar skills. If the agency can get the next mug and the hiring manager to say yes then you are doomed.
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Originally posted by MarillionFan View PostTwo hopes mate. And one of them is dead.
Negotiation is not the art of (you reduce your rate). It's, I have been offered X elsewhere and need to increase my rate to compensate.
Then you throw in, 'Ahhhh. But you are on twice the top end rate of the commission scheme and the client is not happy'. Blah blah blah.
Always offer an out. But an out in your direction.
5% you'll find they have three cheaper better CV's there in half an hour.
The agent doesn't decide, the client does, unless I ask for a crazy rate the agency will have to pay the rate I want. 5% is better than 0. If the agent was honest from the start I wouldn't be about to slice their throats.
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Originally posted by AtW View Post
You can't even manage yourself on this forum, what makes you think you are good enough to confront the agent?
You'd better do what we all do - run. Fast!
Neo
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Originally posted by MarillionFan View Post
Fake post!
Churchill has never owned a fiver.
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Originally posted by AtW View PostYou are good at it.
I can see it just now during the worst winter snow crisis in your job pitching to old lady with her grandson: "Yes, mam, you can of course go out and die a horrible death in the snow with your only grandson, OR you can guy this sled for a very reasonable price of £100 and save both lives."
You have no idea how close you are.
Had a women come in the shop before Xmas, pick up a sledge and go 'How much is this?'
'£15' I replied.
'Bah! £15, they're a tenner down the road, what a rip off!'
'Yes, they are. But they are a single plastic mould, very thin with a fibre rope. These are a double mould, imported from Sweden with a European guarantee and real rope taking up to 65 kg. The one down the road may look the same but they only take 45kg and is a high chance that it will snap before the day is out and most likely hurt the person on it. I am assuming this is for your neice/nephew and I'd be pretty upset as a parent if my nana bought a sledge that injured my child. But I suppose a tenner is a tenner so it's your look out, but if you would like one, here they are' - I schpeeled.
'Bah' and she left.
1/2 an hour later she quietly came back in. Said nothing and bought one.
An hour later she sloped back in and bought another three. I said nothing.
Always give someone an out.
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Originally posted by MarillionFan View PostTwo hopes mate. And one of them is dead.
Negotiation is not the art of (you reduce your rate). It's, I have been offered X elsewhere and need to increase my rate to compensate.
Then you throw in, 'Ahhhh. But you are on twice the top end rate of the commission scheme and the client is not happy'. Blah blah blah.
Always offer an out. But an out in your direction.
5% you'll find they have three cheaper better CV's there in half an hour.
I can see it just now during the worst winter snow crisis in your job pitching to old lady with her grandson: "Yes, mam, you can of course go out and die a horrible death in the snow with your only grandson, OR you can guy this sled for a very reasonable price of £100 and save both lives."
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Originally posted by russell View PostGood advice, its only fair, they are taking ~28% scum bags .
Don't blame the opportunist agent collecting nearly a 1/3 of you're waking working hours, blame the lazy, history graduates, of a HR department who could not bother looking for the talent in the first place.
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Originally posted by russell View PostI will offer them 5%, the client is in through process of changing agencies so I can push it.
You can't even manage yourself on this forum, what makes you think you are good enough to confront the agent?
You'd better do what we all do - run. Fast!
Neo
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