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Previously on "Those damned Tory spending cuts"
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Inflation is a great way out. That's why I stopped having savings and got a fixed rate mortgage instead.
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Takes years to build up to this level of expenditure and more years to make all the cutbacks - which are mainly people, who need paying off and demand consultation, appeals against the decisions yada yada. Most people dont understand that the defecit is still increasing we are still paying out MORE than is coming in. Have to tackle this first THEN cut into core payments. Meanwhile the interest payments are taking a chunk out of everything. No wonder they arent crying about inflation, it works a treat for those in debt !
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Exactly - The Tories would be crazy to try and make inroads into the national debt (although I dare say Lib Dems _are_ crazy enough).Originally posted by amcdonald View Post
Except Labour will probably get back in before the debt is paid off, and will soon be spending like a drug addict with a stolen credit card
Keep the damned thing as it is - A mountainous reproach to socialist meddling and misspending and, what's more important, a barrier against more!
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Interestingly appropriate turn of phrase.Originally posted by Waldorf View PostEven if the government budget was frozen at the current levels, there would have to be cuts in spending in the departments due to the increasing debt.
This year the government expects to borrow another £135 billion (£135,000,000,000), over £5000 per house!
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Except Labour will probably get back in before the debt is paid off, and will soon be spending like a drug addict with a stolen credit cardOriginally posted by Waldorf View PostSo once we have eradicated the deficit we then need to turn to the debt, this is going to be a long haul
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Even if the government budget was frozen at the current levels, there would have to be cuts in spending in the departments due to the increasing debt.
This year the government expects to borrow another £135 billion (£135,000,000,000), over £5000 per house!
The interest on this will be about £4-5 billion, so to pay this we will need to cut back on other spending.
And this is just for 2011-12.
The total interest bill is expected to run at over £70 billion by 2015
So once we have eradicated the deficit we then need to turn to the debt, this is going to be a long haul
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They work in a profit center that generates a lot of dosh - £450 bln turnover or £4.5 mln per employee.Originally posted by scooterscot View Post100 000 people to manage a glorified excel spread sheet?
Source: HM Revenue & Customs (HMRC) | Trade Sector and Transfer Pricing Specialists, Taxation and Finance Jobs and Career Opportunities, UK Nationwide - London, Leeds, Bristol, Manchester, Solihull, Glasgow, Newcastle, Reading, Milton Keynes, Oxford, Notting
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100 000 people to manage a glorified excel spread sheet? Stone the crows.Originally posted by AtW View PostHMRC is a big entity that generates net profit (it's not a loss leader), they employ around 100k people
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HMRC is a big entity that generates net profit (it's not a loss leader), they employ around 100k people - that's around £1.70 water bill per employee per year. It's nothing basically, especially considering huge waste on poorly implemented IT projects done for them measured in billions.Originally posted by scooterscot View Postbottled water £170K - Get the employees to buy their own $@£%$^£$£@$% water!!
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Feels like the country is run by crooks. Cable TV in cells? I don't even have a TV here, been living without one since I moved out. It's nice.
bottled water £170K - Get the employees to buy their own $@£%$^£$£@$% water!!
Calm, phew, calm...
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The Conservatives/Libs appear to have decided to kick the can down the road for another 5 years and have an easy time of it. Assuming they don't get found out before their time is up that is.
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Why did you pick low cost stuff like £55k on redecoration (those sofas ain't cheap) and ignored 3.3 bln kind of figures? Cretin.
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Those damned Tory spending cuts
So where are the spending cuts? - MoneyWeek
Clues can be found in the detailed spending figures published by the Treasury in November (part of the coalition's pledge to be more transparent on spending).
This describes 194,000 payments made by every government department between May and September.
Spending included such items as giving £40,000 of taxpayers' money to Eton College to work with state schools, £1.17m on in-cell TV for prisoners, and £6.6m on free coal for ex-coalminers. HMRC ran up a £170,000 bill on bottled water, and the Ministry of Defence spent £820,000 on hotels in Kenyan game parks. Whitehall paid £271m to one firm, Aspire, which runs IT for Revenue & Customs. It paid £3.3bn to Capita for a range of outsourced contracts – more than several government departments get in a year. Some £1.43bn was spent on school-related Private Finance Initiative (PFI) projects and a further £1.25bn on other PFI contracts. Oh, and £55,000 was spent on decorating 10 Downing Street.
Off to a good start then.
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