Reply to: I loathe Indian Software companies

[doodab]

She did other things too

Presumably she'll keep doing those though? Or did you pay her for that as well?

[2BIT]

I am hardly going to try and invoke that. The problem is that most of the candidates were sourced from linkedin which of course they will now do themselves, so I am left with higher end (very difficult but more profiatable) requirements so i can still make money. the only problem is that having spent 3 years paying and training her she suddenly got the hang of it and then f**ked off. I have now got to do the work myself and at the same time find, hire and train a replacement.

you sound like a permie! ...oh wait....

[DodgyAgent]

So why put it in then? Or is it a case of not wanting to jeopardise the relationship with the client? I mean, I would guess that if they are willing to steal your pet monkeys without so much as a how's your father that they don't particularly value their relationship with you, so unless they are likely to remain a worthwhile revenue stream you might as well piss on their chips.



She won't last long if it's taken her 3 years to learn to make a decent cuppa

She did other things too

[Mich the Tester]

Plan B. Proof reading and correcting marketing material for Bob Co.'s attempting to get into the UK Market.

Much Quickness, Plenty Expensiveness for all your language doings!

ftfy

[Sysman]

Mmmmmm.

Poached account manager.

One of my favourites.

Mmmmmmmm.

Pass the salt 'n' pepper please!

[doodab]

I am hardly going to try and invoke that.

So why put it in then? Or is it a case of not wanting to jeopardise the relationship with the client? I mean, I would guess that if they are willing to steal your pet monkeys without so much as a how's your father that they don't particularly value their relationship with you, so unless they are likely to remain a worthwhile revenue stream you might as well piss on their chips.

The only problem is that having spent 3 years paying and training her she suddenly got the hang of it and then f**ked off. I have now got to do the work myself and at the same time find, hire and train a replacement

She won't last long if it's taken her 3 years to learn to make a decent cuppa

[DodgyAgent]

Isn't there something in his contract to stop that from happening?

I am hardly going to try and invoke that. The problem is that most of the candidates were sourced from linkedin which of course they will now do themselves, so I am left with higher end (very difficult but more profiatable) requirements so i can still make money. the only problem is that having spent 3 years paying and training her she suddenly got the hang of it and then f**ked off. I have now got to do the work myself and at the same time find, hire and train a replacement.

[doodab]

One of my clients who we were doing a lot of business with poached my account manager to save on costs

Isn't there something in his contract to stop that from happening?

[DodgyAgent]

DodgyAgent - you seem to be in jovial mood today, what's up?

One of my clients who we were doing a lot of business with poached my account manager to save on costs

[DaveB]

This email came through half an hour ago:

Dear Sir / Madam,

Greetings from Advaaith Technologys!

We are the fast growing IT consulting firm from India. We provide our
consulting and professional services for our client spread across the
globe. We provide our consultants on short term and long term assignments.
We work on different product families of Oracle – Oracle Apps, Oracle
Technical, Oracle Middleware, Hyperion, JDE and others.

We have 29 consultants on Oracle working with us. And these consultants
are expert in their domain with rich experience in the industry with
strong implementation experience.

We provide these consultants on short term and long terms assignments. And
we would be more grateful to you if you can provide us an opportunity to
work with you.

In addition to Oracle we also provide resources on SAP, Microsoft and
other products.

We are please to share few of customer names with you - we are working
with the clients like, Sybase India and Africa, Shift Technologies UAE,
VESL technologies Africa, Alliance ERP Africa, Computer Ware House Group
Africa, Mason Technologies Malaysia, Catalyst, West Cost Consulting and
Many more.

Please let me know if we can work for your Oracle resource requirements.

Kindly share your opinion on our request..

Looking forward for your positive email.

With Best Regards
Harrsha

Plan B. Proof reading and correcting marketing material for Bob Co.'s attempting to get into the UK Market.

Much Quickness, Plenty Cheapness for all your language doings!

[AtW]

DodgyAgent - you seem to be in jovial mood today, what's up?

[DodgyAgent]

another email

They dont give up

We have consultants who already have work permit visas for UK. Their skill
sets are Oracle DBA, apps DBA, Oracle e Business (financials, SCM and
HRMS) and Oracle Apps technical.

If the candidate doesnt have a work permit visa, then it will take 4 to 5
weeks to get work permit for him. And we would be needing certain
documents from the hiring company. I hope you will assist us in getting
the documents in time. Work permit will be purely legal.

Please free to email or contact me for any clarifications. I will be
available on the below mentioned number.

Looking forward for your reponse.

With Best Regards
Harrsha
Business Development Manager
Advaaith Technologys

It seems that they do not have an office in the UK so the intra company transfer does not apply. It then begs the question as to how on earth do they get work permits given that IT is nowhere near the list of skills shortages that qualify for a work permit

[2BIT]

This email came through half an hour ago:

Dear Sir / Madam,

Greetings from Advaaith Technologys!

We are the fast growing IT consulting firm from India. We provide our
consulting and professional services for our client spread across the
globe. We provide our consultants on short term and long term assignments.
We work on different product families of Oracle – Oracle Apps, Oracle
Technical, Oracle Middleware, Hyperion, JDE and others.

We have 29 consultants on Oracle working with us. And these consultants
are expert in their domain with rich experience in the industry with
strong implementation experience.

We provide these consultants on short term and long terms assignments. And
we would be more grateful to you if you can provide us an opportunity to
work with you.

In addition to Oracle we also provide resources on SAP, Microsoft and
other products.

We are please to share few of customer names with you - we are working
with the clients like, Sybase India and Africa, Shift Technologies UAE,
VESL technologies Africa, Alliance ERP Africa, Computer Ware House Group
Africa, Mason Technologies Malaysia, Catalyst, West Cost Consulting and
Many more.

Please let me know if we can work for your Oracle resource requirements.

Kindly share your opinion on our request..

Looking forward for your positive email.

With Best Regards
Harrsha

My reply

Dear Bob

Thank you very much for your email. May i first of all say my agency is always happy to welcome overseas workers who have obtained Visas to work in the Uk. They have passed the rules required to work here and are most likely will make excellent contributions to any clients we supply their services to.

However looking at your offering I rather fancy that you use (sorry should I say abuse) the intra company transfer scheme. How can you possibly have consultants (unless of course they are UK nationals) who are legally entitled to work on a freelance basis. if your consultants are working here then presumably the terms of their Visa are that they are here to work on a predetermined piece of work for a specific company who wish eventually to outsource work overseas. Once that work has been carried out they are then sent back to India.

I can only assume that you are doing precisely the same thing that the likes of Tata and wipro do which is to abuse the intra company transfer visa in order to bring cheap labour to the Uk that you can exploit for huge profits (when actually it should be us doing the exploiting.. but of British contractors )

You can sod off and take your corrupt business practices with you. In the meantime I have forwarded your email to the UK borders agency.

shame is even if you did send it they probably wouldn't read it so you'll get the same spam next month

[DodgyAgent]

Who will then send you 100,000 work permits as nothing has changed since Call Me Dave became head puppet of the powers that be.

At least we will be able to get some people we really need - Thai lap dancers maybe

[DimPrawn]

You can sod off and take your corrupt business practices with you. In the meantime I have forwarded your email to the UK borders agency.

Who will then send you 100,000 work permits as nothing has changed since Call Me Dave became head puppet of the powers that be.