Reply to: I loathe recruitment consultants

[2BIT]

I have no problem with most HR people and there a re a great many of highly sucessful recruitment agencies out there. I am talking about the useless recruitment consultants that have gravitated into jobs as direct recruiters for companies.

I know was joshing, assuming you were an agent from your username

me? I think I prefer recruiters to HR peeps - recruiters do serve some kind of function, as much as i like to slag agents have worked with some good ones and have relatives and friends who are recruiters - so taken on the whole they aint that bad (IT contract recruiters are on the whole bad though)

HR peeps on the other hand are just useless and IMO full of their own importance - when I was a perm the HR at the place I worked with were so bad that no one could understand why they walked about like they owned the place- it was a predominantly female team who refused to show any respect to the accountants and project staff on the same floor and would regularly create a cacophonous racket of cackling, shouting across the office, stupidly loud ring tones and daily whiteboard meetings - had they been a super efficient productive team it would have been more acceptable but no one really knew what they did

[norrahe]

Jealous?

Of course, they have a bigger budget for hair gel and shiny suits

[MaryPoppins]

I have no problem with most HR people and there a re a great many of highly sucessful recruitment agencies out there. I am talking about the useless recruitment consultants that have gravitated into jobs as direct recruiters for companies.

Jealous?

[doodab]

Cannt?

They are all Cannts.

[DodgyAgent]

are you talking about recruitment agencies here or internal HR depts? suppose it doesn't matter as it applies to both

I have no problem with most HR people and there a re a great many of highly sucessful recruitment agencies out there. I am talking about the useless recruitment consultants that have gravitated into jobs as direct recruiters for companies.

[2BIT]

What they have in fact done is to hire and (worst of all) empower many of the least successful of the scroats who have used their slimy bulltulip to worm their way into jobs paying better than they are already earning.

are you talking about recruitment agencies here or internal HR depts? suppose it doesn't matter as it applies to both

[MrMark]

I am not talking about a frigging business model shortarse. And whatever the model was Caan didnt invent it

Cannt?

[DodgyAgent]

This was a business model invented by James Caan wasn't it?
It's the Uk though, everyone is shuffling some bit of paper around and calling it a job.
It's what happens when you don't have anything to make and sell to the world.

I am not talking about a frigging business model shortarse. And whatever the model was Caan didnt invent it

[sasguru]

These revolting nasty little spivs who love to talk about themselves, love to tell the world how successful they are were in the past confined to the depths of their poxy little (or big) recruitment agency, where they could be selectively ignored or simply used and chucked. They have now, shock horror,broken out of their relatively harmless enclave and escaped into the world of business.

HR people (who I generally dont have a problem with) have been duped into believing that they need to employ their own "recruitment specialists" in order to bring recruitment in house, in order to increase their knowledge of skills markets and reduce costs. What they have in fact done is to hire and (worst of all) empower many of the least successful of the scroats who have used their slimy bulltulip to worm their way into jobs paying better than they are already earning.

These people have managed to dupe employers into believing that they would take a reduction in earnings from £500,000 per annum (if you are going to exaggerate do it properly) in return for the sheer joy of seeing their employer employ fresh happy clappy new employees without the use of a nasty recruitment agency. They have convinced these mighty employers, that job security and working for a large "professional" client like Ngrid/Bgas/RBS is more important than earning shed loads of wonga working for an agency.

What is actually happening is that these companies are recruiting every failing little twerp and giving him a platform of power which he is using to tell the whole world how wonderful he/she is as well as giving him a position of power with which to kick back at an industry in which he failed. What is worse is that they are bringing with them all the baggage of their shoddy unprofessionalism; the laziness, the lack of communication skills (good at talking hopeless at listening), bottles of hair gel blocking up the desks and their stupidity.

They are also being paid a lot of money for being useless. British gas are for example paying £70k for these people (£20k more than they are paying for senior engineers) who in their previous job for the agency were probably earning around £30k and hanging on day by day, by the end of their fingernails to their jobs. If they are any good they would be earning twice that working for an agency so why would anyone who is any good want to change?

The only hope is that the internal hiring managers will get fed up with and prise them out. In the meantime we more () honest and professional agents have to deal with them as will direct applicants.

This was a business model invented by James Caan wasn't it?
It's the Uk though, everyone is shuffling some bit of paper around and calling it a job.
It's what happens when you don't have anything to make and sell to the world.

[MarillionFan]

Oh dear. Did you fail to get past the receptionist at RBS again.

[DodgyAgent]

Oh dear, BG rejected your application again?

They are off my gas supply PSL and next time they send one of their salespeople to my door I will set my Poodle onto him

[Mich the Tester]

<ZG in psychoanalyst mode>Sit down, DA. Now how long have you suffered from these symptoms of self loathing?</ZG in psychoanalyst mode>

Since the school careers officer told me I wouldn't make it as an astronaut and would have to become a careers officer.

Love,

DA

[Churchill]

I think you missed BP and Shell off that list.

And Oracle.

[Fred Bloggs]

I think you missed BP and Shell off that list.

[Mich the Tester]

Don't worry, CM will be along with a nice cup of tea shortly. You might get an extra digestive biscuit if you ask nicely.