Reply to: Is capitalism failing?

[2BIT]

He did also say, 'I am strongly in favour of using poisoned gas on uncivilised tribes', so you may want to take his words with a pinch of salt.

still his quote about communism does hold true, the whole free-for-all everyone-is-equal mentality is common in the young as it requires a lack of wisdom and understanding of human nature....

[Old Greg]

You do know which which buttons of mine to touch

I've told you before. YOUR prostate is YOUR prostate and you don't have to let anyone touch it if you don't want to. Until you die of course.

[DodgyAgent]

Example 1: You get first goes on Mrs T.

You do know which which buttons of mine to touch

[Old Greg]

It offers no alternative whatsoever, it is a diatribe of cliches that can be used to justify any sort of change or alternative system. Give me one practical example of how their "alternative society" would work.

Example 1: You get first goes on Mrs T.

[DodgyAgent]

No, dickhead, all I'm doing is providing a link that offers an alternative view. Maybe you would benefit from lifting your eyes occasionally from the Daily Mail to read alternative views and start to think for yourself. Some of this stuff is idealistic tosh but it poses some interesting questions and if you can't see that naked unregulated hungry hippos capitalism does not work then you should really open your eyes.

It offers no alternative whatsoever, it is a diatribe of cliches that can be used to justify any sort of change or alternative system. Give me one practical example of how their "alternative society" would work.

[Old Greg]

was it Churchill who said:

"'If a man is not a socialist by the time he is 20, he has no heart. If he is not a conservative by 40, he has no brain.'"

He did also say, 'I am strongly in favour of using poisoned gas on uncivilised tribes', so you may want to take his words with a pinch of salt.

[d000hg]

was it Churchill who said:

"'If a man is not a socialist by the time he is 20, he has no heart. If he is not a conservative by 40, he has no brain.'"

No, I think he said "F*** off. Seriously."

[Alf W]

In a world that is free and un controlled by anyone else I will want to be free to carry on ripping off contractors and clients. How does that fit with anarchic communism?

Like everything else you post on here, the best you can manage is repeating cliches of others

No, dickhead, all I'm doing is providing a link that offers an alternative view. Maybe you would benefit from lifting your eyes occasionally from the Daily Mail to read alternative views and start to think for yourself. Some of this stuff is idealistic tosh but it poses some interesting questions and if you can't see that naked unregulated hungry hippos capitalism does not work then you should really open your eyes.

[original PM]

In a world that is free and un controlled by anyone else I will want to be free to carry on ripping off contractors and clients. How does that fit with anarchic communism?Like everything else you post on here, the best you can manage is repeating cliches of others

Why - there would in such a world be no beneift to you to do that as the whole concept of money will be redundant.

Or would you really still want to rip people off just to satisfy a dark inner urge?

[2BIT]

You should have joined CUK 20 years ago

I did, it was tulipe as it wasn't free and had to pay a subscription

[DodgyAgent]

was it Churchill who said:

"'If a man is not a socialist by the time he is 20, he has no heart. If he is not a conservative by 40, he has no brain.'"

?

either way found as I've got older that not only is communism unsustainable but not particularly desirable, when I was young I was all 'power to the people' unfortunately didn't realise that most people are stupid and would be dangerous with power

You should have joined CUK 20 years ago

[2BIT]

was it Churchill who said:

"'If a man is not a socialist by the time he is 20, he has no heart. If he is not a conservative by 40, he has no brain.'"

?

either way found as I've got older that not only is communism unsustainable but not particularly desirable, when I was young I was all 'power to the people' unfortunately didn't realise that most people are stupid and would be dangerous with power

[DodgyAgent]

Interesting Anarcho-Communist viewpoint on the subject of capitalism. I'm pretty sympathetic to these views.

In a world that is free and un controlled by anyone else I will want to be free to carry on ripping off contractors and clients. How does that fit with anarchic communism?

Like everything else you post on here, the best you can manage is repeating cliches of others

[Moscow Mule]

Dunno what you're all blathering on about anyway, the world's going to get smacked in the arse by a bloody great asteroid next year.

I can recommend the champagne...

[stek]

You're missing the point as usual.
My basic premise is that capitalism is self-destructing from within and the current system is losing the confidence of the majority, which is a dangerous state to be in.
the reason for this is that people aren't stupid - they are oK with people taking risks and benefiting thus, but they now see that in whole sectors (such as banking) there is no risk,
just people with connections slurping at the trough and in most companies, at the top level pay has been divorced from performance.

Arrgh! I agree!

Whereas pure communism is truly non-self destructing, it has the highest and most honourable of aims, just 'Die Welt' isn't ready for it yet.

The World will get richer and more efficient, if it doesn't blow up first, but aside from that the goal has to be global Communism from complete automation, and we as humans just enjoy our existence without taking from each other when we all have enough, or is it the human trait just to take, take, take - even when we've all got more than enough? If so......