Reply to: This Libya no fly zone thing..

[Board Game Geek]

Basically, they will procrastinate for as long as they can, until such time as the primary rebel offensive has disintergrated, down to a handful of people and a rather angry goat.

At this point, they will publically announce to great fanfare that they are now able to impose a no-fly zone over Libya, but will then retract it, as the party is all over. As a token gesture, they may send a few Tiger Moths to patrol on the border of Libya (the border being where Libya meets Malta).

Gadaffi stays in power, the rebels are crushed, and the UN can say that they did something. Everyone's happy.

Except for the angry goat of course, which gets halal butchered and eaten as part of a celebration.

Thought I'd revisit my comments and publicly apologise to the UN and the various diplomats who have been working hard, as they actually have ratified the decision, and now air forces are at work making good on the promised action.

Still quite amazed it transpired, but credit where credit is due.

[swamp]

Good stuff AtW.

I think this is going to be Cluster**** 2.1.

[AtW]

About time really that crazy criminal person got dealt with.

For the avoidance of doubt I'll publish his photo:

[d000hg]

Basically, they will procrastinate for as long as they can, until such time as the primary rebel offensive has disintergrated, down to a handful of people and a rather angry goat.

At this point, they will publically announce to great fanfare that they are now able to impose a no-fly zone over Libya, but will then retract it, as the party is all over. As a token gesture, they may send a few Tiger Moths to patrol on the border of Libya (the border being where Libya meets Malta).

Gadaffi stays in power, the rebels are crushed, and the UN can say that they did something. Everyone's happy.

Except for the angry goat of course, which gets halal butchered and eaten as part of a celebration.

There probably postponing the no fly zone and holding out for the ultimate sanction....a strongly worded letter from the UN

The 'west' is protected by those health and safety forms*, so this no fly zone won't ever get off the ground.

* The same forms used to stop the ambulances going into those cumbrian towns when that nutter was randomly shooting people.

The Zionists are quite happy with Gadaffi being in power and the yanks go along with that, Cameron really has to understand that there will be no no fly zone.

I couldn't see a missile either, but it did explode in mid air.

It's looking like the no-fly zone is sort of maybe getting going any day now.

From the BBC

A jet also appears to have been shot down over Benghazi. A rebel spokesman was quoted as saying the downed jet was a rebel plane which had been shot down by pro-government forces

Given the French have started sorties - I wonder if the Rebels have just shot down a French plane ?

Remind me not to listen to any of you lot when we discuss house prices.

I must congratulate the UN security council on confounding the predictions of CUK's panel of ex-spurts.

Indeed.

[MarillionFan]

From the BBC

A jet also appears to have been shot down over Benghazi. A rebel spokesman was quoted as saying the downed jet was a rebel plane which had been shot down by pro-government forces

Given the French have started sorties - I wonder if the Rebels have just shot down a French plane ?

Jet shot down over Libya | The Sun |News

Great picture on.

And they're off!

******* hell, do we only get involved with attacking countries with oil!!!

[EternalOptimist]

So did that plane belong to the Rebels (al queda?) ?

Interesting to read the following note from Gadhafi to Oboma

But Gadhafi defended his actions in his note to Obama. He said his opponents are from al Qaeda in the Islamic Maghreb, the group's North African wing, and asked Obama what he would do if such an armed movement controlled American cities.

"Tell me, how would you behave so I could follow your example?"

If I had to guess, I would say yes, it was a rebel aircraft, on a morale boosting fly past, that went horribly wrong. and the pilot is now a greasy spot in some Benghazi suburb.

as far as Gadhafis argument is concerned, it may be true. But I would respond by saying, we dont want al quaeda, but we dont want you either.

[AlfredJPruffock]

So did that plane belong to the Rebels (al queda?) ?


The same group who declared 3 weeks ago - there would be no foreign intervention in Libya ?

Interesting to read the following note from Gadhafi to Oboma

But Gadhafi defended his actions in his note to Obama. He said his opponents are from al Qaeda in the Islamic Maghreb, the group's North African wing, and asked Obama what he would do if such an armed movement controlled American cities.

"Tell me, how would you behave so I could follow your example?"

[EternalOptimist]

From the BBC

A jet also appears to have been shot down over Benghazi. A rebel spokesman was quoted as saying the downed jet was a rebel plane which had been shot down by pro-government forces

Given the French have started sorties - I wonder if the Rebels have just shot down a French plane ?

the fact that the plane was on its own is significant. In the west, they sortie in twos at least

[AlfredJPruffock]

From the BBC

A jet also appears to have been shot down over Benghazi. A rebel spokesman was quoted as saying the downed jet was a rebel plane which had been shot down by pro-government forces

Given the French have started sorties - I wonder if the Rebels have just shot down a French plane ?

[PAH]

It's looking like the no-fly zone is sort of maybe getting going any day now.

Yeah, just a few more meetings to ensure all the UN countries are 'singing from the same hymn sheet'. They're delayed until the tea and biscuit supply is topped up.

Exactly this reason why commitees make things worse not better. If the UN was a dictatorship they'd have nuked gadaffi by now. Job done.

That'd take the Libyans minds off the rebels, just like Fcukashima is taking the international community's minds off the real tradgedy happening in Japan. The water soaked one.

[VectraMan]

I couldn't see a missile either, but it did explode in mid air.

It's looking like the no-fly zone is sort of maybe getting going any day now.

[MrMark]

Interesting clip on the Beeb this morning. They're showing a fighter plane crashing near Benghazi. No idea what caused it - I couldn't see any missiles on the clip. Maybe we have a new super weapon that can take out opposition planes at will - and this morning we demonstrated to the Libyan regime that we're capable of this? (or maybe it was just a pilot junking his plane rather than bomb his countrymen)
Edit: Sky News are reporting it was shot down by the rebels.

[CheeseSlice]

The regime has just announced a "ceasefire". Hoping no doubt to keep things quiet for a few days, then crush the rebels at a later date. Question is, will the uprising take heart from all this?

I think its more of a "we're ceasefiring" to the international community, then just getting on with more bombing in the background. The giveaway is that Libyan state TV haven't said anything about a cease fire.

Thankfully it sounds like the UN are wise to Gaddafi's lies and are just going to get on with the dirty work anyway.... well, sounds like it anyway.

[EternalOptimist]

History shows us that the consequences of western intervention are almost always disastrous and not in the interests of those it claims to support."

Aye.
but you know what it's like Alf. dammned if you do, dammned if you dont

[AlfredJPruffock]

History shows us that the consequences of western intervention are almost always disastrous and not in the interests of those it claims to support."