That's because there is a strong public belief that the deficit is solely and completely down to the banks.
Never mind the fact that the government were overspending since 2003 - long before we'd ever heard of sub-prime.
The banks had/have a large part to play in the crisis, but the true blame probably lies 50/50 with the previous government. However the left have managed to convince the majority that the blame ratio is 99/1 (and they won't even fully admit to the "1"). Fantastic marketing, it has to be said, because so many have been suckered by it.
But that means that every single government cut is being blamed completely on bankers.
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Originally posted by minestrone View PostThe blunt argument is that they have paid what has been expected of them to pay.
If I go into a shop and ask for a can of coke and the shop keeper asks for 60 pence should I have to pay 80 pence if someone shouts from the back of the shop 60 pence is too cheap?
The tax rules are there, we all know that, to say that they are somehow cheating the system is total piffle.
Regardless of whether you think banks are good or bad (personally I think they are criminals, as has been proven in many courts in many countries), the main issue I have with this is that, thanks to this smokescreen, the government gets a free pass on the issues at hand, namely regulation, supervision, and (in this case) tax law.
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Originally posted by minestrone View PostIf I go into a shop and ask for a can of coke and the shop keeper asks for 60 pence should I have to pay 80 pence if someone shouts from the back of the shop 60 pence is too cheap?
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Originally posted by AtW View PostThey should have paid around £3 bln in corp tax - 6 years of that single bank paying what is due would have fully financed High Speed 2 to Birmingham without having to need to plan it being ready by 2026 - this could have been done 10 years earlier.
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They should have paid around £3 bln in corp tax - 6 years of that single bank paying what is due would have fully financed High Speed 2 to Birmingham without having to need to plan it being ready by 2026 - this could have been done 10 years earlier.
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Originally posted by minestrone View PostThe blunt argument is that they have paid what has been expected of them to pay.
If I go into a shop and ask for a can of coke and the shop keeper asks for 60 pence should I have to pay 80 pence if someone shouts from the back of the shop 60 pence is too cheap?
The tax rules are there, we all know that, to say that they are somehow cheating the system is total piffle.
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The blunt argument is that they have paid what has been expected of them to pay.
If I go into a shop and ask for a can of coke and the shop keeper asks for 60 pence should I have to pay 80 pence if someone shouts from the back of the shop 60 pence is too cheap?
The tax rules are there, we all know that, to say that they are somehow cheating the system is total piffle.
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Good on them!
If they had acted like any honest citizen and paid a billion in taxes all that would have been wasted by the government in vote mining projects or frittered it away on benefits etc.
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2.4% in total, or 2.4% in the UK?
Besides if a company pays lesss tax, it has more profit to give out in bonuses, increasing personal wealth and infuriating immigrant squirrel-fanciers.
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There's some serious exaggeration occurring on both sides of this argument.
UK Uncut (and others) seem to imply that any corporation that pays even a penny less than 28% are basically thieves.
Yet no multi-national organisation will ever pay 28% in UK corporation tax - even if they comply with the letter and 'spirit' of the rules.
This is because overseas earnings are first taxed in the country of origin - and only then taxed in the UK on the difference between 28% - if there is any. This isn't even tax avoidance - it's just how international tax works - and has worked for yonks. The company still pays 28% tax - just not all of it as UK corporation tax.
For a large company with major overseas operations, this can significantly distort the apparent percentage paid, even if they pay every penny due - although even with this, the amount paid by Barclays does seem low.
Now on the other side, Barclays are being very crafty about their definition of what they have paid in tax. One of their statements said something like "We made 6bn profit and paid 2bn in tax" - seems about right. But apparently some of this is income tax paid by their employees.
Next they'll start claiming that the decorators they use for their branch makeovers will pay tax, so they'll include that in their tax figure as well.Last edited by centurian; 19 February 2011, 15:18.
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Tax protesters target Barclays bank
It's legal but immoral.
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Are you getting mixed up with the Barclays brothers, sorry I'm too lazy to google
LMGTFY yada yada
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