Reply to: Average salary

[ThomasSoerensen]

How about you try and work it out for yourself, given that you know what a median is?
Try not to move your lips as you think.

FOAD

[d000hg]

Says the believer in the supernatural. Talk about being one of the masses.

Yeah being in a minority group definitely makes me one of the masses.

[sasguru]

Seriously, you're still bickering over who knows what average means? I say let SasGuru win this one, he's known about being average his whole life.

Says the believer in the supernatural. Talk about being one of the masses.

[d000hg]

Seriously, you're still bickering over who knows what average means? I say let SasGuru win this one, he's known about being average his whole life.

[sasguru]

Did you ever answer my question here?
http://forums.contractoruk.com/gener...ml#post1270251

How many people?

How about you try and work it out for yourself, given that you know what a median is?
Try not to move your lips as you think.

[ThomasSoerensen]

Hmmm. That's what I said right near the start of this thread, but someone called me statistically illiterate for saying it.

I agree completely.

[ThomasSoerensen]

So say you're left with €2,000 after deductions you've got your rent, utilities, travel, living expenses, etc. which basically leaves you with bugger all. Thats why beer and fags are cheaper here

Yes, some basic food here is very cheap.
I read somewhere some time ago that the Germans are the Europeans who are ranked lowest when comparing the relative spending on food. And they are in the top when comparing how much they spend on fuel for cars.
but I take your point, if I was a single man living here I could live very very cheaply. But it would not be pretty.

[Doggy Styles]

Lets say there are 6 people with salaries (all in K)
10 20 20 30 40 100

The median is 25, the mode is 20 and the mean is approx 36.

See how the mean is distorted by the 100K person?

Hmmm. That's what I said right near the start of this thread, but someone called me statistically illiterate for saying it.

[ThomasSoerensen]

Germans are living within their means whereas people in the UK are massively overpaid.
How can a much poorer country like the UK justify higher salaries?
It'll all end in tears and the process has already started.

Did you ever answer my question here?
http://forums.contractoruk.com/gener...ml#post1270251

How many people?

[sasguru]

I don't have a salary as I don't work for a company, what I do have is an income which is pretty damn mean

German salaries are pretty crap, I was shocked when I first came here at how much people earned and how much the cost of living was and then how did the afford it. What you have to remember is that their parents (we're talking post-war here) were very much into austerity and saved, a lot. This has helped their children and still does which I can vouch for personally. Germans, until very recently, didn't believe in credit (many shops still don't take credit cards) so if you couldn't pay for it you saved or you didn't buy it. Germans still tend very much so, to live in rented accomodation and living outside of town can be very cheap. What that table doesn't tell you is the real figure at the end of the day, in fact its out of date and pretty crap. Deductions are very varied, a single man is tax class 1 and with social deductions will have over 50% of his salary nicked. So say you're left with €2,000 after deductions you've got your rent, utilities, travel, living expenses, etc. which basically leaves you with bugger all. Thats why beer and fags are cheaper here

Germans are living within their means whereas people in the UK are massively overpaid.
How can a much poorer country like the UK justify higher salaries?
It'll all end in tears and the process has already started.

[darmstadt]

I don't have a salary as I don't work for a company, what I do have is an income which is pretty damn mean

German salaries are pretty crap, I was shocked when I first came here at how much people earned and how much the cost of living was and then how did the afford it. What you have to remember is that their parents (we're talking post-war here) were very much into austerity and saved, a lot. This has helped their children and still does which I can vouch for personally. Germans, until very recently, didn't believe in credit (many shops still don't take credit cards) so if you couldn't pay for it you saved or you didn't buy it. Germans still tend very much so, to live in rented accomodation and living outside of town can be very cheap. What that table doesn't tell you is the real figure at the end of the day, in fact its out of date and pretty crap. Deductions are very varied, a single man is tax class 1 and with social deductions will have over 50% of his salary nicked. So say you're left with €2,000 after deductions you've got your rent, utilities, travel, living expenses, etc. which basically leaves you with bugger all. Thats why beer and fags are cheaper here

[suityou01]

None of us are worth more than a fiver an hour - we're all on borrowed time until we're found out.

Or maybe that's just me.

[MaryPoppins]

None of us are worth more than a fiver an hour - we're all on borrowed time until we're found out.

Or maybe that's just me.

[suityou01]

Quite literally stunned. Burn the witch.

HTH

[MarillionFan]

I wouldn't imagine the 'rich' have ever socialised regularly with the 'poor' as a rule. If you're talking about the class system.

I'm not 'rich', or powerful - but I do earn considerably more than most of my mates. Most contractors are massively overpaid, and we all know it. I'm glad I'm one, but I don't consider myself 'successful' based on what I earn.