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[EternalOptimist]

By whose standards?

by the only standards that really matter

[Churchill]

The japanese were waging a war in China way before the second world war(1937). It was quite a brutal and bloody war on a massive front.
The nationalist Chinese were getting a bit of a drubbing, then the yanks started helping a bit via volunteer groups. The Chinese communists were in a seperate state, in the mountains (iirc) and they had been fighting the nationalist chinese since the mid 20's.

the whole bunch of them were brutal, viscious and nasty

By whose standards?

[EternalOptimist]

Besides, Stalin was our ally through most of the war. Don't know about Mao, perhaps there isn't much footage of what went on there, which might make a documentary a little drab.

The japanese were waging a war in China way before the second world war(1937). It was quite a brutal and bloody war on a massive front.
The nationalist Chinese were getting a bit of a drubbing, then the yanks started helping a bit via volunteer groups. The Chinese communists were in a seperate state, in the mountains (iirc) and they had been fighting the nationalist chinese since the mid 20's.

the whole bunch of them were brutal, viscious and nasty

[Churchill]

Besides, Stalin was our ally through most of the war. Don't know about Mao, perhaps there isn't much footage of what went on there, which might make a documentary a little drab.

Well, we're not going to piss off tha Nazi's because they don't exist.

If we have a go at Mao and Stalin then the Russians and the Chinese are likely to get a bit uppity.

[Doggy Styles]

Besides, Stalin was our ally through most of the war. Don't know about Mao, perhaps there isn't much footage of what went on there, which might make a documentary a little drab.

[vetran]

TW my post was a direct response to your second post.

Whilst I agree the high profile of the Nazi crimes is overshadowed by the sheer volume of Stalin & Mao's genocide the intended victims and their descendants have a large interest in our broadcasting organisations.

Also whilst others exceeded the Nazi death toll its the use of the industrialised extermination that marks it apart. They actually thought of new ways to kill because bullets and hunger were too inconvenient. That is the true horror, worthy of Ghengis Khan.

[Paddy]

Had Germany occupied the UK, there would by many people who would have collaborated with them not least the banks. See what happened in the CI.

In France after Hitler was driven down the Champs Elysees he met up with Barclays Bank in Paris who offered him their full co-operation.

[TimberWolf]

Let's be fair; dear old Adolph was a rank amateur compared with Stalin or Mao.

And yet he (the former) gets all the notoriety. I, and I expect most, have little idea what Stalin or Mao did, relative to Hitler at least.

[EternalOptimist]

What's funny about about questioning why we hear so much about German atrocities, and not Russian, Japanese, Yugoslavian ones, etc. Do you think German atrocities were so much worse?

well if you want to talk about the atrocities in isolation, then fine, you have a point.
I suppose that once we had industrialisation, we were going to get industrialised atrocities

i always thought the Russian brand was the worst

[TimberWolf]

TW this has to be a troll surely you can't be serious?

Just watch a few of the interviews with the concentration camp guards then think these people would have been your masters.

What's funny about about questioning why we hear so much about German atrocities, and not Russian, Japanese, Yugoslavian ones, etc. Do you think German atrocities were so much worse?

[vetran]

TW this has to be a troll surely you can't be serious?

Just watch a few of the interviews with the concentration camp guards then think these people would have been your masters.

[EternalOptimist]

And yet previous invasions and defeats are mostly now regarded as good things. What did the Romans ever do for us?

Ah well, its always ok when it happens to someone else. Why dont you beetle off and work in a salt mine for a few years. there's a good fellow

[TimberWolf]

forced labour
permenant rationing
sequestered industry
conscription into a foreign army
apartheid
second class citizenry (never, ever,ever get into a dispute with your kraut neighbour)
compulsory beach towels on everything that is any good


it would not have been good

And yet previous invasions and defeats are mostly now regarded as good things. What did the Romans ever do for us?

[EternalOptimist]

Loss of colonies to begin with - and that even without direct Nazi rule.

forced labour
permenant rationing
sequestered industry
conscription into a foreign army
apartheid
second class citizenry (never, ever,ever get into a dispute with your kraut neighbour)
compulsory beach towels on everything that is any good


it would not have been good

[scooterscot]

...that sometimes TV is wall-to-wall Nazis and what the Germans did during the war, but there is little or nothing on what the Japanese and Russians did? Today is Auschwitz day on "Yesterday", as was yesterday and most days have some Hitler.

The first thing I noticed when returning from Germany. Even the news was having a go about the blitz. Change the record for peats sake.