Reply to: Perm->Contract, worth handing in notice?

[lORD lUCAN]

You ought to take up cycling, I never get ill and don't know of many cyclists that do.

Take this morning as an example: cycled 26 km in through the blizzard that's blowing across this morning, working my way around crashed and crumpled cars, only to find the office practically empty of permies that live only a few blocks away.

nimbley, du er dansk jeg se, just need to lift ya game lads, start some exercise, swimming or cycling should get you through the winter months.
I've not been off sick for 2 years and have had entire departments falling
ill around me. I probably do 100 or more lenghts of 33.3 metre pool a week.
If you start working out the money I've saved by not having sick days.
Probably works out around 2-3k, don't earn as much as you boys!!

[malvolio]

Point of Order, chaps - he asked what were these supposed downsides. We all know that the trick is recognising them and planning for them.

I dunno, can't even be grumpy in peace these days, young whippersnappers, mutter mumble...

[threaded]

You ought to take up cycling, I never get ill and don't know of many cyclists that do.

Take this morning as an example: cycled 26 km in through the blizzard that's blowing across this morning, working my way around crashed and crumpled cars, only to find the office practically empty of permies that live only a few blocks away.

[MarillionFan]

"Last week off I had was due to a fecking Typhoid Mary coming into the office & spreading his fecking germs around... I was not amused at losing over £1.5k... barsteward."

Same with me. Havent been ill on site for about 3 years and on my first week they put me next to some contractor who dragged his sorry ass in to work, sat there coughing, spluttering, sneezing, kleenex everywhere. He was sniffing and couging so badly I put my headphones on to ignore the noise.

By Friday I was off and ill all weekend.

Tosser

[MarillionFan]

"Most employers will wait a couple of weeks at least if you are the right guy."

What are you on?

Most employers will wait a few weeks, but the agents wont and you have to get past the agents.

If you require notice, in the bin you go.

As long as you have a few months money in the bank, ditch your job in and then push push push.

MF in '4 contacts this year already' mode

[madhippy]

Well where shall we start? It's late, let's stick to the obvious ones...

Not getting paid for holidays, bank holidays, client closing down over Christmas, being sick...

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Right doddle this contracting lark, isn't it? Are you sure you've thought it through?

now that's the only one I could think of ... but then you get 'paid' more to cover these situations ...

[threaded]

What a bunch of wusses: are you slightly better than an absolute muppet at what you do? Then ditch the permie job and go contracting. There again, even if you are an absolute muppet then apply for Lead Architect roles, no clients will ever notice.

[ASB]

Not getting paid... (don't laugh, it happens)

Ignore Malvolio and the rest of his nots. He's just being depressiive.

For sale. one sales ledger. slightly second hand. Should come good. Probably.

[Harrysp]

Conrtacting may seem like easy money but trust me permie boys u needs balls of steel and a good solid dependable 6 monther to start of with

[malvolio]

exactly what sort of permie perks are likely to be missed? can't think of any where the contractor 'alternative' is worse ..

Well where shall we start? It's late, let's stick to the obvious ones...

Not getting paid for holidays, bank holidays, client closing down over Christmas, being sick...

Not getting paid because the agency or you has cocked up somewhere

Not getting paid... (don't laugh, it happens)

Not having to be responsible for a raft of forms and declarations and ensuring various monies are paid to various departments to very precise deadlines..

Not having to worry about if how you are running your business is acceptable to the powers that be

Not having to worry about being told to go home on 1 hour's notice

Not having to worry about where next month's pay is coming from.


Right doddle this contracting lark, isn't it? Are you sure you've thought it through?

[madhippy]

Having had to haul my sorry @rse into work every day last week when I had a stinking cold, I can think of one perk that wins on a head to head basis.

you could argue it's in the 'employers' best interest for you to stay away from work - so as not to infect anyone else with your cold etc ... also paying you to work at say, 70%, of your normal workrate ...

could a client tell you not to turn up til your cold got better ?


think I've had <week off in around 5 years ...

[Alf W]

Having had to haul my sorry @rse into work every day last week when I had a stinking cold, I can think of one perk that wins on a head to head basis.

[madhippy]

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I'm currently a permie, looking at leaving current position and going contracting >>


I'm p,ed off with working with recent permie to contractor types. They moan, they still want their permie perks, and they keep on about how the first contract will be their last. Please don't work with me.

sure no problem - I'll look out for the miserable sod in the corner ...


exactly what sort of permie perks are likely to be missed? can't think of any where the contractor 'alternative' is worse ...

[Clog II The Avenger]

P, ed

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I'm currently a permie, looking at leaving current position and going contracting >>


I'm p,ed off with working with recent permie to contractor types. They moan, they still want their permie perks, and they keep on about how the first contract will be their last. Please don't work with me.

[Jakes Daddy]

FFS Yet another one? Do you need advice on how to wipe your bum too?

thanks for the offer of the free arse wiping course ... but think I can manage ...

I dont think sas offered you a free course - he's a contractor after all !
I would imagine that £500 + expenses p/day should cover it; and with project management, analysis of requirements, development of course material, delivering course, post-course testing etc you would be looking at around 3 months.