Reply to: Why are the all the Daily-Mail-middle-class-closet-communists so outraged by....

[Zippy]

Im assuming that Zippy got his education by giving the teacher a tenner each day to pay for his portion of her wage demands. Or did that come from a previous generation of tax payers?

No I paid for it out of the money I got for climbing up chimneys. Duh!

[Mich the Tester]

Surely the wobby RAM pack would have provided entertainment without it resulting in an accident?

Yep, doesn't pull rock chicks though.

[Saddo]

...and remained a virgin into your thirties.

Surely the wobby RAM pack would have provided entertainment without it resulting in an accident?

[Mich the Tester]

I used mine to buy a ZX80.

...and remained a virgin into your thirties.

[Alf W]

This is why the whole thing is so stupid and ill-thought out. A flat rate payment by child is easy, efficient and fair. Those who pay tax get some of it back as a reward for bringing up kids. Those who don't, get an additional benefit to help them raise their kids.

At a stroke the Tories have managed to piss off every middle manager with kids in the country and a fairly high percentage of those will now be rapidly going off the Tories.

Wait a minute, this is all becoming a bit clearer now. I bet Cleggy has set up Fag Osborne here and goaded him into announcing this policy ("it'll be a toppper announcement Georgie, honestly, they'll all think you are such a whizz") knowing full well it will start driving these people back towards the Liberals.

[ItsQuickerAntiClockwise]

I used mine to buy a ZX80.

Geek alert!!!!!

Im surprised you didn't use it to expand your Star Wars figurine collection.

[DimPrawn]

My parents gave me their child benefit payments for a few years and I saved it all up to buy a motorbike (Yamaha RD350LC), which I wrapped around a tree after two weeks. Two fun weeks though.

I used mine to buy a ZX80.

[Mich the Tester]

Think overhead with this one. If relationships were good and stable then it would work. However relationships come and go, and the admin overhead trying to keep up with the situation could be very significant.

I'm more inclined to do away with the child/tax benefit completely, because that payment is made to the parents. And there's nothing to stop the parents using the payments to buy ciggies or booze. Would be better giving that money to the schools and allow them to control food and clothing for needy youngsters (would there be a problem with a school having a member of staff to manage this process?).

My parents gave me their child benefit payments for a few years and I saved it all up to buy a motorbike (Yamaha RD350LC), which I wrapped around a tree after two weeks. Two fun weeks though.

[ItsQuickerAntiClockwise]

Think overhead with this one. If relationships were good and stable then it would work. However relationships come and go, and the admin overhead trying to keep up with the situation could be very significant.

I'm more inclined to do away with the child/tax benefit completely, because that payment is made to the parents. And there's nothing to stop the parents using the payments to buy ciggies or booze. Would be better giving that money to the schools and allow them to control food and clothing for needy youngsters (would there be a problem with a school having a member of staff to manage this process?).

Im not so sure about that one. I think schools act as surrogate parents enough these days as it is.

Having said that, you're idea would probably be a good idea up in the North (no offense, but lets be realistic)

[Saddo]

**** me! We are being governed by a bunch of people who think adding up two salaries is "too complex and expensive"

Think overhead with this one. If relationships were good and stable then it would work. However relationships come and go, and the admin overhead trying to keep up with the situation could be very significant.

I'm more inclined to do away with the child/tax benefit completely, because that payment is made to the parents. And there's nothing to stop the parents using the payments to buy ciggies or booze. Would be better giving that money to the schools and allow them to control food and clothing for needy youngsters (would there be a problem with a school having a member of staff to manage this process?).

[ItsQuickerAntiClockwise]

How's about when the day comes and you want the state pension, or the NHS to supply an ambulance to get you to a hospital? Or your house is set alight and the fire brigade helpfully come round and squirt some water on it. Those things are going to be paid from taxes on these sprogs which you don't want to pay for.

I appreciate that as a contractor you may well have your own personal pension plan sorted, but you might want to accept the government handout to top it up (if you can live to 105 which will be the minimum age to draw state pension by the time you get there).

With regard to never having been homeless or ill, I think it would be risky to assume that because something hasn't happened it never will.

Im assuming that Zippy got his education by giving the teacher a tenner each day to pay for his portion of her wage demands. Or did that come from a previous generation of tax payers?

[Saddo]

However - I don't have sprogs, so those of you that do - you are fookin' sponging off me. Why should I pay for schools? Never been ill - why should I pay for hospitals? Never been old - why should I pay for care? Never been homeless - why should I pay for social housing?
I doubt any of this will strike a chord - you are all too short sighted and - frankly - fookin' thick..

How's about when the day comes and you want the state pension, or the NHS to supply an ambulance to get you to a hospital? Or your house is set alight and the fire brigade helpfully come round and squirt some water on it. Those things are going to be paid from taxes on these sprogs which you don't want to pay for.

I appreciate that as a contractor you may well have your own personal pension plan sorted, but you might want to accept the government handout to top it up (if you can live to 105 which will be the minimum age to draw state pension by the time you get there).

With regard to never having been homeless or ill, I think it would be risky to assume that because something hasn't happened it never will.

[Alf W]

On Monday Chancellor George Osborne said that from 2013 child benefit would be removed from families with at least one parent earning more than about £44,000 a year.

But families with two earners paid just under the threshold each, would still be eligible. The government says it is too complex and expensive to work out overall household incomes to administer the benefit.

**** me! We are being governed by a bunch of people who think adding up two salaries is "too complex and expensive"

[shaunbhoy]

It makes me laugh when those who are well off expect to get everything back that they put in.

Well if anyone had actually said that, you might have a case. But as they have not, you don't.

HTH

[Alf W]

What a fantastic implosion by the Tories. Osborne hasn't so much dropped the ball on this one as much as picked it up, run towards his own goal and firmly punted it in by really not thinking this through

Watching Cameron trying to tough it out on the interview with Adam Bolton this morning and pretend that's what they had intended to announce was absolutely priceless. He even crawled as low as to say that it would be £1bn he wouldn't have to take off education to give it some sort of credence.

I bet Osborne is getting his arse cheeks properly roasted in front of the fire behind closed doors over this one.