Reply to: Vince Cable: Migrant cap is hurting economy

[Sysman]

They played the usual like "but we advertised the roles in the UK first...."

Referring to my post above, this is an admission that they haven't looked in the rest of the EU. <snigger>

In another seating there is Sir Andrew Green who is a diplomat promoting anti-bob immigration policy. Am glad that he specifically brought up Tier 2 permits (ICT) and gave some hard facts and figures about its abuse as a vehicle for eventually offshoring work to cheap labour in india.
[edit]he did seem to miss out its use as a way to keep people in the UK on low wages.

Which is the real problem.

[CheeseSlice]

Anyone fancy watching this and seeing who it is that is pressuring/bribing Cable and what their augment is?

I can't be arsed, it's all a charade.

The sound quality is awful so I skippd through it a bit, but from what I could make out the first sitting has 3 pro-bob people (probably work for Accidenture) and including a bob recruiter guy who basically said something sounding like "much quickness plenty cheapness" in response to whatever question he was asked. It was basically a big sob story to the panel about the temporary cap, but they didn't really come up with (or I couldn't hear them) any hard facts about he damage caused so far. To be fair to the panel, they actually threw some provokative questions around using existing labour force during times of recession. They played the usual like "but we advertised the roles in the UK first...."

In another seating there is Sir Andrew Green who is a diplomat promoting anti-bob immigration policy. Am glad that he specifically brought up Tier 2 permits (ICT) and gave some hard facts and figures about its abuse as a vehicle for eventually offshoring work to cheap labour in india.
[edit] he did seem to miss out its use as a way to keep people in the UK on low wages.

[Sysman]

He gives the game a way in his interview with the FT in the Video he clearly states "I represent Business" (1:39).

I think he is trying to do a Hewitt because he knows that he won't be in government for very long.

And he said what they all say ('cos they have to), that businesses have to look outside the EU to fulfil skills shortages, but in practice I doubt whether they look outside the UK itself.

Why don't they look in the rest of the EU first? Mitch probably has the answer here.

[shaunbhoy]

Not many were disturbed by the fact that Matrix Chambers made a shed load of money on the then Governments legislation changes.

I believe Gordon Brown was moved to say "As long as it is fair!"

HTH

[SupremeSpod]

First thing he says is that his wife is an immigration lawyer. Nobody questions that it might possible make him partial.

Not many were disturbed by the fact that Matrix Chambers made a shed load of money on the then Governments legislation changes.

[Sysman]

A quick scan of that Wiki suggest he should be in prison, rather than serving as chairman for the Home Affairs Committee.

Beat me to it.

[HairyArsedBloke]

I would like to take Cable round this office then take him out to meet the 5 recent IT graduates than I know that cannot get a start. See what he has to say to them.

"You have transferable skills. Have you looked for work in data entry?"


Edit: Now I think of it. That is roughly what I've been doing so far this morning and it's going to be my main task over the weekend.

[minestrone]

Used to be bright kids coming through all the time making me raise my game. Not happened for the last 10 years.

I would like to take Cable round this office then take him out to meet the 5 recent IT graduates than I know that cannot get a start. See what he has to say to them.

[HairyArsedBloke]

First thing he says is that his wife is an immigration lawyer. Nobody questions that it might possible make him partial.

[Lockhouse]

They are paying 18 grand for Bob developers in here.

I was getting that 12 years ago when I left Uni and thought I was getting ripped off.

Has anyone actually seen a Graduate in IT in the last 5 years?

Used to be bright kids coming through all the time making me raise my game. Not happened for the last 10 years.

[TimberWolf]

What hope is there with Keith Vaz as charman?

Keith Vaz - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

A quick scan of that Wiki suggest he should be in prison, rather than serving as chairman for the Home Affairs Committee.

[Paddy]

Anyone fancy watching this and seeing who it is that is pressuring/bribing Cable and what their augment is?

I can't be arsed, it's all a charade.

What hope is there with Keith Vaz as charman?

Keith Vaz - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

[TimberWolf]

Anyone fancy watching this and seeing who it is that is pressuring/bribing Cable and what their augment is?

I can't be arsed, it's all a charade.

[Doggy Styles]

So we'll leave all those millions unemployed, and import people to fill job vacancies.

And we'll leave all those who cannot find affordable housing living with their parents, and import people to fill available accomodation.

So much for Saint Vincent Cable. Isn't this what Labour called "Joined-Up Thinking"?

[Sysman]

The best testers can break anything

Chuckle. I remember a local software house getting me in to do a bit of testing. I broke the pre-release version of their flagship product in 30 seconds.