Reply to: Client micro-management

[Sysman]

Which then means that her job is not unique to her and could be in danger of being chopped and her duties passed to others that are aware of and are quite capable of what she did. This seemed to be the main focus in the one public sector client I had. Project could go to rat tulip for all they cared as long as their jobs were safe.

In my brief exposure to the public sector everything had to go up and down the command pyramid, i.e communication via the bosses and no collaboration between members of different teams.

[stillooking]

they don't let contractors recruit permies. The most I can do is "assist" with recruiting permies

....but hey, wouldn't it be fun if we could??

I understand (I think), you don't recruit contractors yourself.

Yes, agree on last comment above;

[PM-Junkie]

are we talking about vacancies for permie's?

they don't let contractors recruit permies. The most I can do is "assist" with recruiting permies

....but hey, wouldn't it be fun if we could??

[stillooking]

There is. A lot.

I work in the private sector and when I have vacancies to fill I wouldn't touch someone from the public sector with a bargepole. And I am definitely not in the minority judging by comments from others.

are we talking about vacancies for permie's?

[PM-Junkie]

There might be a bit of truth in that, I've not had a proper plc gig since I first went into the public sector about 5 yrs ago.

There is. A lot.

I work in the private sector and when I have vacancies to fill I wouldn't touch someone from the public sector with a bargepole. And I am definitely not in the minority judging by comments from others.

[original PM]

you don't just get this empire building office politics tulip in public sector only.

It all depends on the outlook of senior managment regardless of where you are

well from my experiences anyway.

either way - Keep calm and carry on!

[stillooking]

The longer I stay in this gig (now 2 months in) the more I realise what I have let myself in for. The above is so true!! No accountability in any part of the organisation. IT are the low life compared to the clinicians. Even the other contractors are developing a public sector mentality!!!

If I stay the 12 months it will be a miracle!! If I do, I will have to jump straight into a private sector contract to cleanse myself!!

Ah well; don't fret too much. Just go with the flow & culture.

Speaking from experience, there are public sector places that are not so nice, so just be thankful it's ok?

I've worked in the health sector, it's not too bad where I contracted and would go back again.

[stillooking]

Assuming the private sector will touch you now that you have been molested by the public sector.

There might be a bit of truth in that, I've not had a proper plc gig since I first went into the public sector about 5 yrs ago.

[Clippy]

The longer I stay in this gig (now 2 months in) the more I realise what I have let myself in for. The above is so true!! No accountability in any part of the organisation. IT are the low life compared to the clinicians. Even the other contractors are developing a public sector mentality!!!

If I stay the 12 months it will be a miracle!! If I do, I will have to jump straight into a private sector contract to cleanse myself!!

Assuming the private sector will touch you now that you have been molested by the public sector.

[Mustang]

Public sector white collar -

First of all get in there, feet under table.
Get the pension/perks.
Make sure you keep yr line manager sweet (unless you're in a union).
Write the line "I will do better next year" a thousand times for your performance appraisal (and do this every year).

Do nothing effectual for 30 years.

The longer I stay in this gig (now 2 months in) the more I realise what I have let myself in for. The above is so true!! No accountability in any part of the organisation. IT are the low life compared to the clinicians. Even the other contractors are developing a public sector mentality!!!

If I stay the 12 months it will be a miracle!! If I do, I will have to jump straight into a private sector contract to cleanse myself!!

[stillooking]

Which then means that her job is not unique to her and could be in danger of being chopped and her duties passed to others that are aware of and are quite capable of what she did. This seemed to be the main focus in the one public sector client I had. Project could go to rat tulip for all they cared as long as their jobs were safe.

It's like this at all the places I've been working at recently (public sector).

Public sector white collar -

First of all get in there, feet under table.
Get the pension/perks.
Make sure you keep yr line manager sweet (unless you're in a union).
Write the line "I will do better next year" a thousand times for your performance appraisal (and do this every year).

Do nothing effectual for 30 years.
Then get pensioned off, hopefully very early thus burdening the taxpayer even more.
Then die.

A bit sweeping perhaps, but there you go

[stillooking]

A dinosaur with worms?

??

[northernladuk]

Not at all. When I spoke to XXX I was told it was appropriate for her to be copied in.



Not that I am aware of.....! She is just a carp manager and unable to deal with someone that is more qualified and has more experience than her..........!

Which then means that her job is not unique to her and could be in danger of being chopped and her duties passed to others that are aware of and are quite capable of what she did. This seemed to be the main focus in the one public sector client I had. Project could go to rat tulip for all they cared as long as their jobs were safe.

[mudskipper]

You need one of these

A dinosaur with worms?

[Zippy]

some of the emoticons can be a bit confusing/misleading, for a dinosaur (like me).

You need one of these