Reply to: Is it the done thing.....

[SupremeSpod]

Wouldn't know, but hey if you've had experience let us all know

Nope, not my bag at all.

[Gibbon]

Kind of wet and warm?

Wouldn't know, but hey if you've had experience let us all know

[minestrone]

Dunno about all that, but people say 'vadge' round here, rather than 'fadge'. Interesting.

You say Vadge, and I say Fadge
Vadge... Fadge... Vadge... Fadge
Let's call the whole thing off.

[SupremeSpod]

How very dare you, I've been carefully building my reputation up to be within a hairs width of being a complete cock and you've just knocked me right back down. Now I know how Sisyphus felt, oh well here I go again.

Kind of wet and warm?

[bellymonster]

How very dare you, I've been carefully building my reputation up to be within a hairs width of being a complete cock and you've just knocked me right back down. Now I know how Sisyphus felt, oh well here I go again.

You can be a total cock if you like, I'll request the necessary upgrade right away

[Gibbon]

Ok, so I'm a fadge, but you are most definitely are a bit of a cock. I'm not really going to kick someone in the gusset just cos they are bad at being a PM. I believe I posted this is the correct area where stupidity reigns so you should have twigged it was only in jest.

Sure she's a crap PM and sure I'll see it through to the end. Doesn't stop me venting a bit of steam tho' surely.

How very dare you, I've been carefully building my reputation up to be within a hairs width of being a complete cock and you've just knocked me right back down. Now I know how Sisyphus felt, oh well here I go again.

[MaryPoppins]

Dunno about all that, but people say 'vadge' round here, rather than 'fadge'. Interesting.

[bellymonster]

WHS


This Forum really has started attracting some bedwetters. Can't believe a professional contractor can get so worked up about a manager. Obviously never been on Gibbons 'Managing your Manager' course.

Saying the the Deadline isn't probably achieveable isn't same as it isn't achieveable so any good manager will ignore it as you making it up to be used as an excuse in case you're too tulip to deliver. If it really isn't achieveable then work out what would make achieveable or reduced functionality etc, your managers ears will ***** up at that.

Micro email management - easy, turn it off for two hours at a time and only turn it on when you get a coffee etc. If she questions you on this say that email isn't an instant form of communication and that it distracts you from concentrating on delivering. If she needs to speak to you urgently there is a phone or she can walk over. If she disputes this just, quote some 6 sigma tulip.

Gibbon in 'Never been out of work and got work until the end of next year' mode.

HTH BIDI with someone who can contemplate kicking a woman in the fadge, the only thing that belongs there is sitting firmly on your shoulders for all to see.

Ok, so I'm a fadge, but you are most definitely are a bit of a cock. I'm not really going to kick someone in the gusset just cos they are bad at being a PM. I believe I posted this is the correct area where stupidity reigns so you should have twigged it was only in jest.

Sure she's a crap PM and sure I'll see it through to the end. Doesn't stop me venting a bit of steam tho' surely.

[stillooking]

as a contractor you should let these things wash over you. a key skill is the ability to get on with whoever you find yourself working with and for. you get in, get it done and move on. if the "get it done" bit takes longer (for whatever reason) then that is usually a good thing. if staying on is not a good thing (for whatever reason) then excercise your right to move on.

That's quite easy to say, of course you've got be able to deal with people, but there are places that are different to your experiences and would be prove challenging. 'Moving on' right away is not always possible for the usual reasons.

[Gibbon]

Sounds like she's nervous and perhaps a little too self-deprecating.

There are (at least)a couple of ways forward. You can be helpful and probably have praise in the form of extensions heaped upon you or become an obstacle and expect to be removed.

Kicking her in the "fadge" <--- how quaint; is not an option unless you're a soft twat who gets off on hitting girls.

Hth.

Spod - In "just received another extension" mode.

WHS


This Forum really has started attracting some bedwetters. Can't believe a professional contractor can get so worked up about a manager. Obviously never been on Gibbons 'Managing your Manager' course.

Saying the the Deadline isn't probably achieveable isn't same as it isn't achieveable so any good manager will ignore it as you making it up to be used as an excuse in case you're too tulip to deliver. If it really isn't achieveable then work out what would make achieveable or reduced functionality etc, your managers ears will ***** up at that.

Micro email management - easy, turn it off for two hours at a time and only turn it on when you get a coffee etc. If she questions you on this say that email isn't an instant form of communication and that it distracts you from concentrating on delivering. If she needs to speak to you urgently there is a phone or she can walk over. If she disputes this just, quote some 6 sigma tulip.

Gibbon in 'Never been out of work and got work until the end of next year' mode.

HTH BIDI with someone who can contemplate kicking a woman in the fadge, the only thing that belongs there is sitting firmly on your shoulders for all to see.

[DS23]

as a contractor you should let these things wash over you. a key skill is the ability to get on with whoever you find yourself working with and for. you get in, get it done and move on. if the "get it done" bit takes longer (for whatever reason) then that is usually a good thing. if staying on is not a good thing (for whatever reason) then excercise your right to move on.

[stillooking]

Where do I start...

She talks to people like dirt and yet gets uppity when people don't respond to her nicely.

She sets a dealine for a task, you tell her it's probably not achievable, but she sticks with it regardless and from that point on emails you every 30 seconds asking "is it's done yet".

This doesn't sound good, is she a permie or a contractor? Assuming she's young inexperienced it doesn't sound like she's done proj mgt before? Are you working in a crap place that tolerates this behaviour? I've worked in a few and it's not good.

If it is a 'good' company/org., can you have a dialogue with her superiors or will it back fire? These things need to be dealt with in one way or another.

[bellymonster]

Aside from having a fanny and a PRINCE2 certificate, what has she actually done wrong?

Where do I start...

She talks to people like dirt and yet gets uppity when people don't respond to her nicely.

She sets a dealine for a task, you tell her it's probably not achievable, but she sticks with it regardless and from that point on emails you every 30 seconds asking "is it's done yet".

She contradicts herself in every email she sends out, can literally change her orders 3 times in the space of 10 minutes but is totally oblivious to the fact.

She's implied on more than one occasion that my work from home days are "days off" and I should think myself lucky.

She even admitted that her motto was "20% Ability, 80% Confidence".

It makes no difference that she has a fadge, I'd be complaining as much about a bloke PM if he was as bad.

[SupremeSpod]

to boot your project manager in the fadge?

She is a serious pain in the ass. Even her introduction made me cringe..

"Hi, my name's <stoopid bitch>, and I have a prince II certificate, and that's me really"

Is a boot in the fadge an option?

Sounds like she's nervous and perhaps a little too self-deprecating.

There are (at least)a couple of ways forward. You can be helpful and probably have praise in the form of extensions heaped upon you or become an obstacle and expect to be removed.

Kicking her in the "fadge" <--- how quaint; is not an option unless you're a soft twat who gets off on hitting girls.

Hth.

Spod - In "just received another extension" mode.

[bellymonster]

Is she fit?

She thinks she is. But I wouldn't touch her with yours.