Reply to: English football - the Inquest.

[shaunbhoy]

He was referring to the nation as a whole, at least that's how I took it?

How very dare he!!!!
Does he have no conception of the numbers of plastic flags that have been sold in the last 6 weeks or so?
If that is not passionate then I don't know what is...............although curiously, I have not noticed quite so many today.

[gingerjedi]

Can you honestly say that over the 4 games that any of the players played with passion.

If anyone David James did, probably the best player we had over the the 3 games he played.

No lung busting runs from midfield apart from the first 3 mins against USA
No pressing, thundering tackles, no shouting.

He was referring to the nation as a whole, at least that's how I took it?

[shaunbhoy]

The team from the "Best League in the World" played remarkably like the team from the "Worst League in the World".

HTH

[FiveTimes]

Are you on drugs?

Can you honestly say that over the 4 games that any of the players played with passion.

If anyone David James did, probably the best player we had over the the 3 games he played.

No lung busting runs from midfield apart from the first 3 mins against USA
No pressing, thundering tackles, no shouting.

[gingerjedi]

There just isn't that national passion that other countries have. In Canada we are not too worried when our local team doesn't do too well, but it is an absolute must that the national team do well. It seems the opposite in England is true.

So where was this Rooney chap BTW? MIA AFAICT

Are you on drugs?

[oversteer]

He played to the whistle.

As all professionals should.

Otherwise, you get this

YouTube - DiCanio vs Barthez

[lilelvis2000]

There just isn't that national passion that other countries have. In Canada we are not too worried when our local team doesn't do too well, but it is an absolute must that the national team do well. It seems the opposite in England is true.

So where was this Rooney chap BTW? MIA AFAICT

[Churchill]

Is Manuel Neuer a cheat?

He must have known the ball crossed the line & yet carried on playing. Not very sportsmanlike at the least.

He played to the whistle.

[Clippy]

News conference is 10 minutes late to start. Bet Fabio has quit!

Doesn't look like it and I hope he stays.

The FA need to back him when they decide in 2 weeks.

[MarillionFan]

Apparently (I read it so it must be true) the Germans have the best teams in the world at all levels of youth football.

So what? We still produce the best cars in the world.

[minestrone]

Apparently (I read it so it must be true) the Germans have the best teams in the world at all levels of youth football.

[doodab]

Perhaps we should have seen it coming: 2009 UEFA European Under-21 Football Championship - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Personally I think the death of English football is being slightly overstated.

Yes, we did defend awfully. John Terry looked and played like my Grandad (who's been dead a while) and there is no doubt we missed Rio. We lack the strength in depth to cope with one or two of our main guys being out of sorts (never mind 10 of them), we looked too tired to run in midfield (although perhaps that was due to bad preparation i.e. the altitude training camp?), and the number of times one of players just stood there with the ball and waited for a German to take if off him was staggering.

Despite all that, lets not forget that even with half the team playing like donkeys, if Frank Lampard had been a bit luckier we would have gone in 2-2 at half time and been 3-2 up shortly after the restart, rather than chasing the game and being vulnerable to the quick counters that put the result beyond doubt. So it's not all gloom and doom.

I am going to wait and see how this German side do against top class opposition in Argentina before I pass final judgement. They may be young but the core of the German team made it to the Champions League final and for all we know we may have been steamrollered by the next world champions.

[MarillionFan]

News conference is 10 minutes late to start. Bet Fabio has quit!

[sasguru]

You do not have the talent, look at your goalkeepers, you got them from Birmingham City, West Ham & Portsmouth, a combined goal difference of -60 last season. Capello then decides that the best one is the (probably injured) James who's team just got relegated. You do not have an English Keeper in the top 10 keepers in the Premiership, probably more. As I said all along, and have been proven right, your players are simply are not good enough. Your defence was a laughing stock, Algeria gave you a going over for long spell in that match, I will say again, Algeria gave you a going over.

The Sky money focused your teams on the short term "why train a goalkeeper, we can outbid any other country in the world". Your own teams fight it out for 17 year olds from the Ivory Coast. The drop down to the championship makes teams desperate and they pay millions for dross like a losing gambler chucks in his car keys.

You have to do what Germany did and force teams to stay out for debt, then you will start to train players again.

But I think it is too late, it will get worse before it gets better, your best players are all about to retire and your clubs are not so heavily in debt it will take decades to get out of the mess.

I quite agree. Apart from a short period in the 30s and 40s, the Krauts ahve demonstrated consistent long-sightedness whether it be the way they organise their footy or their economy.
The short termist English way leads to disaster.

[minestrone]

I still maintain we have the talent but not the mentality, we play too many domestic games and the clubs always come before country.

You do not have the talent, look at your goalkeepers, you got them from Birmingham City, West Ham & Portsmouth, a combined goal difference of -60 last season. Capello then decides that the best one is the (probably injured) James who's team just got relegated. You do not have an English Keeper in the top 10 keepers in the Premiership, probably more. As I said all along, and have been proven right, your players are simply are not good enough. Your defence was a laughing stock, Algeria gave you a going over for long spell in that match, I will say again, Algeria gave you a going over.

The Sky money focused your teams on the short term "why train a goalkeeper, we can outbid any other country in the world". Your own teams fight it out for 17 year olds from the Ivory Coast. The drop down to the championship makes teams desperate and they pay millions for dross like a losing gambler chucks in his car keys.

You have to do what Germany did and force teams to stay out for debt, then you will start to train players again.

But I think it is too late, it will get worse before it gets better, your best players are all about to retire and your clubs are not so heavily in debt it will take decades to get out of the mess.