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[centurian]

Still no word from the stewards?

Alonso has the attitude that everyone should move over for him. Hopefully any penalties won't greatly benefit him. He's a brilliant driver and I don't get why he has to do this whining crap.

5 second penalties - Alonso gains a whopping 1 place...

autosport.com - F1 News: Nine drivers given five-second penalties

Edit: Never heard of 5 second penalties before...

And I think Jonathan Legard sums it up in his tweet

5 second penalties given to the 9 SC offenders so Jenson Button keeps third place. Ferrari will be even more angry.

[VectraMan]

Lands upside down at 150Mph (twice as fast as motorway speeds) and bounces, in an open-cockpit car? That is an almighty crash and it's amazing he just jumped out.

Yes but the cockpit is very well protected against that. Landing upside down from say, 10 feet, is a relatively low speed impact. It's the 150mph part that's much more serious - upside down or not; the upside down part just makes it look more spectacular.

He slid along tarmac for quite a distance losing speed, and then hit a relatively soft tyre barrier. They have a warning light in the cars that's triggered at a certain level of G force, and if it's on, the marshals won't let the driver get out of the car. Webber got himself out of the car absolutely fine. It looked spectacular, but in reality it wasn't that big an impact.

Here's Kubica going about the same speed almost head on into a concrete wall, and without losing any speed. Now that was amazing, but they took some time getting him out of the car, and despite being fine wouldn't let him take part in the next race.

YouTube - robert kubicas crash

[norrahe]

Still no word from the stewards?

Alonso has the attitude that everyone should move over for him. Hopefully any penalties won't greatly benefit him. He's a brilliant driver and I don't get why he has to do this whining crap.

Probably cos he likes to whinge.

[TykeMerc]

Those F1 cars certainly can take a hell of a kicking.

The drivers are super fit too which I'm sure helps, but considering the speeds of some of the nasty crashes there's got to be some serious engineering brilliance to keep the drivers alive let alone able to casually climb out of the wrecks.

[Zippy]

Still no word from the stewards?

Alonso has the attitude that everyone should move over for him. Hopefully any penalties won't greatly benefit him. He's a brilliant driver and I don't get why he has to do this whining crap.

[d000hg]

it wasn't all that heavy an impact, not compared to Kubica's at Canada a couple of years ago. It looks spectacular, but the really scarey thing about that is not that the driver gets hurt, but that the car, or bits of the car, go flying over the fences into spectators.

Lands upside down at 150Mph (twice as fast as motorway speeds) and bounces, in an open-cockpit car? That is an almighty crash and it's amazing he just jumped out.

[centurian]

It's pure spite from Alonso.

Agreed. If Alonso had concentrated on driving his own race instead of trying to get other driver's penalties, he might have gained a few more places.

[VectraMan]

He's not predictable at all these days.

the F1 forum's down

I suspect a load of drivers will end up with a grid drop for the next race.

What Hamilton did (and it certainly looked like he was guilty), didn't actually affect Alonso. That wasn't the reason Alonso was 9th, it was just the reason Hamilton was 2nd. If Hamilton had slowed behind the safety car maybe they'd have been 8th and 9th. It's pure spite from Alonso.

Just show's how much the car safety has advanced in F1

Yes, but it wasn't all that heavy an impact, not compared to Kubica's at Canada a couple of years ago. It looks spectacular, but the really scarey thing about that is not that the driver gets hurt, but that the car, or bits of the car, go flying over the fences into spectators.

[centurian]

Oh dear yes - he had another hissy fit . He might still finish fourth though.

Yes, you could hear his race engineer trying to 'manage his hissy' over the radio. I just just imagine the words that he really wanted to use.

I thought that retrospective penalties only applied if there isn't enough time to apply them during the race (last 3 laps ???). Surely they would have known if they have gone too fast - and if they have, they should all have received drive-through penalties during the race, like Lewis did (although his was for a difference offence).

[norrahe]

Oh dear yes - he had another hissy fit . He might still finish fourth though.

He's not predictable at all these days.

the F1 forum's down

[Zippy]

Scared the crap out of me when I was watching, though he didn't fare too well off the grid.

At least Alonso got overtaken in the last lap

Oh dear yes - he had another hissy fit . He might still finish fourth though.

[Zippy]

Awful accident and thank goodness he's OK.

Edit: the sadists at the BBC are making Webber talk them through it.

[norrahe]

Awful accident and thank goodness he's OK.

Scared the crap out of me when I was watching, though he didn't fare too well off the grid.

At least Alonso got overtaken in the last lap

[Zippy]

Awful accident and thank goodness he's OK.

[norrahe]

At least he's alright.

Just show's how much the car safety has advanced in F1