Originally posted by d000hg
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You can't keep everyone alive but you can avoid disgrace of pensioners dieing in their houses during winter because they can't afford to heat their houses - the fact that it happens en masse in this country is a total disgrace and it is a result of failed economic policies.
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Not sure that the German and French leaders would be able to bring much to the Party when talk turned to all things "War".German & French politicians don't do it yet why is it so acceptable for UK?
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Originally posted by Shimano105 View PostNo because the Government is now Tory/Lib Dem - but they were the Government. What a strange thing for you to say.Party TurnoutAsked on 18th March 2003 to support Tony Blair’s motion for military action against Iraq, Labour and Conservative MPs lined up to vote “aye”.
Both the Conservative and Labour frontbenches in the House of Commons supported the war. The Conservatives even argued that the Government wasn’t being tough enough.
Con 139 15 0 95.1%
DUP 5 0 0 100.0%
Ind 0 1 0 100.0%
Ind Con 1 0 0 100.0%
Lab 245 138 0 94.1%
LDem 0 53 0 100.0%
PC 0 4 0 100.0%
SDLP 0 1 0 33.3%
SNP 0 5 0 100.0%
UUP 6 0 0 100.0%
Total: 396 217 0 94.8%
All falling over themselves to support the Americans with one eye on the lucrative lecture circuit after office
Ask yourself what kind of uproar there would be if UK politicians went on after office to make millions from giving tours to Russia or China? but because it's done in the USA no one gives a hoot
German & French politicians don't do it yet why is it so acceptable for UK?
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1) They are politicians..... (Therefore they lie)Originally posted by fullyautomatix View PostWhat has changed so suddenly that they are spouting such bulltulip? It was the worst decision of Labour when they were in power and yet it has taken them a leadership contest to come out and accept that it was wrong.
Bunch of crooks each one of them.
2) They are no longer riding the "Government with large majority" Gravy Train...... (Therefore keeping schtum doesn't benefit them anymore)
3) See 1
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They couldn't start cleansing until the guilty ministers were largely gone.Originally posted by fullyautomatix View PostWhat has changed so suddenly that they are spouting such bulltulip?
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For once I find myself agreeing with minestrone!Originally posted by minestrone View PostThe war was a ******* disaster, probably the worst decision the UK has made since the end of WWII.
You come from a war mongering nation where invading countries happens at the drop of a hat, this country was meant to be the cradle of democracy and yet we let a psycho PM drag us into this. Blair is a twunt and if I was allowed to put a c on that I would. I truly detest that man and being a religious person the twunt with a c rarely comes out my mouth. I reserve that word for him.
Recession, depression, hyper inflation, stagnation happens. It is in the cycle of this thing we all capitalism.
Old folk die of cold, it happened before new labour and it will happen after. That fact was never their decision, the war was.
For all our sins, Britain did have a reasonable reputation in the World. We could at least usually claim some moral high ground when we told other countries what to do.
All that was shot to tulip when we invaded Iraq.
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Neither Ed was an MP when Tony took us to war, the sith lord Mandy must have some sort of plan that involves distancing them from the old/new labour.Originally posted by fullyautomatix View PostThis suddenly seems to be the mantra of the Labour leadership candidates. Ed Balls has said it and so have Dave and Ed Millipedes.
What has changed so suddenly that they are spouting such bulltulip? It was the worst decision of Labour when they were in power and yet it has taken them a leadership contest to come out and accept that it was wrong.
Bunch of crooks each one of them.
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No because the Government is now Tory/Lib Dem - but they were the Government. What a strange thing for you to say.Originally posted by threaded View PostThe government took the UK into that war. These guys are not the government. How can you therefore attach blame to them?
Bizarre.
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It is what they have to say to appeal to the left of the party, no more or less than that. It has nothing to do with if it was right or wrong. Nor has it to do with what there actual belief is.Originally posted by fullyautomatix View PostWhat has changed so suddenly that they are spouting such bulltulip?
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The government took the UK into that war. These guys are not the government. How can you therefore attach blame to them?Originally posted by fullyautomatix View PostThis suddenly seems to be the mantra of the Labour leadership candidates. Ed Balls has said it and so have Dave and Ed Millipedes.
What has changed so suddenly that they are spouting such bulltulip? It was the worst decision of Labour when they were in power and yet it has taken them a leadership contest to come out and accept that it was wrong.
Bunch of crooks each one of them.
Bizarre.
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It is no surprise to me that your tulipty little company is failing, you display stupidity like it is a fashion choice.Originally posted by AtW View PostNo, it certainly wasn't the worst.
Yeah tulip like old people who die because they can't afford fuel during winter is "normal" in a cradle of democracy - the economy is so fundamentally broke that war in iraq (tragic error - I've been against it before it started actually, check my posts on this board) is a non-factor on a scale of things that this country will face.
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