Reply to: Labour and London

[AtW]

Where you drunk when you wrote this ?

Maybe it's the one who shall not be named who took over his account again?

[AtW]

It's called supply and demand.

In a mass transit system such as trains high volume is a very good thing that allows to make large investment to have high capacity at pretty much fixed prices, hence keeping ticket prices low.

Why prices should be THAT much different in peak/off peak? Maybe they should have gradually dropping price from real peak (7-8am) to off peak starting at 10 am.

I mean FFS, they now shifted "peak" time from London to 3pm - I mean FFS - how the Fk can it be peak time? Trains are empty at this "peak" time because they priced everyone out - check multiple empty 1st class carriages in the first "offpeak" train at 7pm from Euston going to Brum - they are empty like 4-5 of them, where as standard class is totally packed: supply side is there, they just waste it on ******* empty 1st class carriages.

[sasguru]

Many people have lived there for generations and pass on their council flat to their siblings. Many get loads of benefits and get a subsidized (peppercorn) non market rent. Many then sub-let a room or two to some city worker for £300+ a week, I kid you not. Really they should not be living there.

What a load of old cobblers. I don't know anything about "council house land" but I do know that no city worker is going to rent a room in a council flat with a chav roomie for £300 per week. Particularly when you can get a one-bed in a decent area for the same price (or a superior house share with other pros).
Where you drunk when you wrote this ?

[gingerjedi]

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[d000hg]

It's called supply and demand. All the places you go to FROM London are less popular.

[AtW]

Or is that perhaps a nationwide problem and has absolutely nothing to do with London, you muppet?

These ridiculous prices are set for those who want to go to London by train.

Maybe this problem has got nothing to do with people who actually live in London, but it has got everything to do with London.

I've just checked costs of ticket in the morning from London to same station - they offer "off peak" in what is deemed "peak time" when going to London.

[Bunk]

I'll think about next time when I have to buy peak time train ticket to London - £140 for reasonably fast (1 h 20 mins) train to Euston from Brum

Or is that perhaps a nationwide problem and has absolutely nothing to do with London, you muppet?

On a side note, Wandsworth has the cheapest council tax in the country. How else do you think Sasguru can afford to live there?

[d000hg]

Why do poor people live in such an expensive place? NMW doesn't get weighting does it?

Moving across the country is expensive and stressful. Especially since other parts of the country have less jobs.

[d000hg]

I'll think about next time when I have to buy peak time train ticket to London - £140 for reasonably fast (1 h 20 mins) train to Euston from Brum

So you're saying London is expensive because it costs a lot for people who don't live there to travel?
I doubt low-income Londers often buy train tickets TO London, where they live.
Seems like living outside London is dearer based on your argument.

[AtW]

London isn't that expensive.

I'll think about next time when I have to buy peak time train ticket to London - £140 for reasonably fast (1 h 20 mins) train to Euston from Brum

[HairyArsedBloke]

Whatever happened to the Caroline Flint plan to redistribute the London unemployed to other parts of the country?

[MrMark]

Why do poor people live in such an expensive place? NMW doesn't get weighting does it?

Once your rent is accounted for (either by hsg benefit, or perhaps you have cheap rent anyway with a HA) then London isn't that expensive. Plenty of cheap ethnic places to eat, free newspapers, special promotions etc. I imagine heating bills are lower than the rest of the country too, as the micro climate means London is generally warmer.

Most expensive place to live is in a village. The local shop (if it still exists) overcharges for stuff, and you pay more for local transport in order to get anywhere.

[Bagpuss]

Why do poor people live in such an expensive place? NMW doesn't get weighting does it?

Many people have lived there for generations and pass on their council flat to their siblings. Many get loads of benefits and get a subsidized (peppercorn) non market rent. Many then sub-let a room or two to some city worker for £300+ a week, I kid you not. Really they should not be living there.

[gingerjedi]

Why do poor people live in such an expensive place? NMW doesn't get weighting does it?

[Bagpuss]

I have and I know the problems, at least you admit to them.