Reply to: Hacker's mum to stand against Jack Straw for the General Election !!!

[expat]

I thought the main point of voting for her is to highlight the inequity of our treaty with the USA - after 9/11 our government agreed to deport felons there on demand, but there was no reciprocal agreement.

Another good reason is to give our self-styled Justice Minister a kicking.

All in all, she's worthy of a vote.

I have AFAIR detested every Labour Home Secretary since Roy Jenkins. A slap in the chops for any of them is a blow for democracy IMHO.

(And yes I know he's justice minister now, do we have that on our list of oxymoron phrases?)

BTW I think that our two governments drew up a reciprocal treaty, but the US legislature refused to ratify it because they wouldn't subject their citizens to it. Ours ratified it without hesitation. That's why it works only one way.

Which shows that either our politicians are even more venal than the Americans' politicians, or that we voters don't slap them in the chops with relish nearly enough.

[Doggy Styles]

I thought the main point of voting for her is to highlight the inequity of our treaty with the USA - after 9/11 our government agreed to deport felons there on demand, but there was no reciprocal agreement.

Another good reason is to give our self-styled Justice Minister a kicking.

All in all, she's worthy of a vote.

[minestrone]

Surely she can't take the job??? I would have thought she would have had to be DV cleared or something and as she is directly and highly visibly related to a know threat to a nations security she is hardly gonna get this..

IMO get her to crawl back under her stone, stop wasting everyones time/money and try and keep her kids in check. No time for this at all sorry.

There are current serving MPs that have admitted to being in the IRA.

edit: Doggy got there first

[Doggy Styles]

But surely that is a measure of how much people WANT you to do the job. If you are a proven security risk then you CAN'T take the job??

You mean like members of the IRA?

No, if she's voted in, she gets the job.

[expat]

But surely that is a measure of how much people WANT you to do the job. If you are a proven security risk then you CAN'T take the job??

Who has the right to say so? That job is given by the voters, and only them. They have no superiors in this matter. Their ballot papers are not trumped by anything.

The election is not a popularity contest, it is the selection itself. If she is selected that's it, the owners have spoken.

[northernladuk]

What do you mean she can't take the job? The job of MP? That is decided by one selection process and one only, in a democracy.

But surely that is a measure of how much people WANT you to do the job. If you are a proven security risk then you CAN'T take the job??

[expat]

Surely she can't take the job??? I would have thought she would have had to be DV cleared or something ....

What do you mean she can't take the job? The job of MP? That is decided by one selection process and one only, in a democracy.

[expat]

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He's avoided justice for a decade now. He should at least be glad about that.

Trouble is, he's not now going to get justice, he's going to be sent to America.


But centurian had the best reason right:

Still, if she can give Jack a good kicking, then go for it

[northernladuk]

Worse than that hows about at least one foreign secretary was in the pay of a hostile foreign power.

Erm, I thought that was a pre-requiste of the role rather than a hinderance. God help us if we got some ministers not on some pay roll of something dodgy!

[threaded]

I am aboslutely sure of that. Most of them have criminal records the length of your arm but still there. Mr Archer springs to mind. These are the blessed few and have friends in high places/funny hand shakes and the like. Mrs McKinnon is a nobody and will hopefully stay that way.

Worse than that hows about at least one foreign secretary was in the pay of a hostile foreign power.

[northernladuk]

If you think that you'd be surprised at the background of some people who've got the job of Foreign Secretary, never mind just as an MP.

I am aboslutely sure of that. Most of them have criminal records the length of your arm but still there. Mr Archer springs to mind. These are the blessed few and have friends in high places/funny hand shakes and the like. Mrs McKinnon is a nobody and will hopefully stay that way.

[threaded]

Surely she can't take the job??? I would have thought she would have had to be DV cleared or something and as she is directly and highly visibly related to a know threat to a nations security she is hardly gonna get this..

IMO get her to crawl back under her stone, stop wasting everyones time/money and try and keep her kids in check. No time for this at all sorry.

If you think that you'd be surprised at the background of some people who've got the job of Foreign Secretary, never mind just as an MP.

[northernladuk]

Surely she can't take the job??? I would have thought she would have had to be DV cleared or something and as she is directly and highly visibly related to a know threat to a nations security she is hardly gonna get this..

IMO get her to crawl back under her stone, stop wasting everyones time/money and try and keep her kids in check. No time for this at all sorry.

[threaded]

She's got my vote. And I can actually vote for her!

Why not also go along and ask if you can do some leafleting for her?

Point her in our direction if she'd like some considered arguments about the pros and cons of the treaty and the effect on civil liberties.

Advice on the leaflet contents, layout, etc..

That kind of thing.

[AngelOfTheNorth]

She's got my vote. And I can actually vote for her!

Why does she have your vote?

Because her son hacked into systems apparently looking for UFO's but left a string of diatribes against the US governments involvement in Iraq? Doesnt sound like the sort of thing a 'ufo spotter' would do.

Or is it because of his Aspergers. A condition that was diagnosed AFTER his crime and also a condition which if you asked 99% of the population would not have a clue as to how that mitigates his circumstance.

A person with Aspergers is not a total retard who doesn't know right from wrong.

He's avoided justice for a decade now. He should at least be glad about that.