Originally posted by Newnonperm
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Your offence will still be visible to those conducting a PNC check on you, and a PNC check is made on every SC level applicant.
Regardless of what the offence was for, you HAVE to declare your criminal record on the SC Application forms.
Please read the blurb which accompanies the SC clearance application, as these give you all the info you need, ask the security controller for them if you never received them.
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Originally posted by Newnonperm View PostI have been asked to apply for SC but can you tell me if my current employer will see the infomation on the form as i have a small indiscretion 30 years ago long spent but i'm embarrased about it, i dont know if it will stop my SC being granted.Is the process that the vetting people see the form and grant/refuse SC or do employers security see info sent to vetting people and grant/refuse SC
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So don't fuss it. Leave it out in the open.
In fact if you feel that embarrassed about it, you've got to ask yourself: what would you do if someone down the line offered to not tell your employer about it, if you did them a little favour...
That's what it's all about you see.
HTH
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I send direct to end client (vetting people) and nothing else to hide so i will see what happens now.Who tells me if i've got it ?
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Originally posted by Newnonperm View PostThanks i recieved a 12 months conditional discharge for fighting when i was younger and dafter 30 years ago, who issues the SC, the vetting people or the company security ?
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Did you win? How bad did you hurt the other guy?? Was there lots of blood? Tell me.. tell me...
If that is all it is then this is all a storm in a teacup. Tell your company to be absolutely sure there will be no come back if you fail and just get on with it. It is so minor and so long ago I really can't see this being a problem to anyone.
Now if you turn round and tell us you were fighting with a politician while trying to steal his briefcase of secret to sell to the Russkies then we will are gonna give you a right flaming!!!
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Originally posted by Newnonperm View PostThanks i recieved a 12 months conditional discharge for fighting when i was younger and dafter 30 years ago, who issues the SC, the vetting people or the company security ?
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The company does a quick initial check to see if you are likely to get it - residency, passport, ID etc. Nothing more than that.
Then they pass it over to the end-client to do the security check. This may be DVA, it may be the department themselves, e.g. Ministry of Justice do their own.
If this is you -> end-client then it's obviously only the end-client that does the check. The people that you are working with (day-to-day contacts etc.) won't see the forms, though.
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Originally posted by Churchill View PostLook, your original post was incorrect, it wasn't another SC question, it was more of the same.
I suggest you either do a search of this forum or have a look at this website.
Admin, can we have a "sticky" on the new forum?
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Originally posted by Newnonperm View PostThanks i recieved a 12 months conditional discharge for fighting when i was younger and dafter 30 years ago, who issues the SC, the vetting people or the company security ?
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I suggest you either do a search of this forum or have a look at this website.
Admin, can we have a "sticky" on the new forum?
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Thanks i recieved a 12 months conditional discharge for fighting when i was younger and dafter 30 years ago, who issues the SC, the vetting people or the company security ?
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Originally posted by The Wikir Man View PostIf by indescretion you mean some kind of criminal record, you put your declaration in an envelope, which is sealed and then given to the security officer to pass to the vetting people.
Your current (and probably future) employers / clients will not see the detailed information, I believe.
As you mention it was a 'small indescretion' I doubt it is something that today will affect your ability to get security clearance......as long as you are honest about it on the forms.
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Just fill the form in, tell them everything, even speeding convictions - and yes folks attending a speed awareness course does not mean that you haven't comitted an offense, you have to mention that on your form too.
An offense 30 years ago should not cause you problems - not mentioning it on your vetting form will.
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You're entitled to put the "embarassing" bits in a sealed envelope that the DVA will open, but the Security Office at your client shouldn't.
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Just tell us what you did - then we can give you accurate, reasonable advice, as ever.
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