Reply to: Why people are skeptical about Global Warming

[TykeMerc]

George Carlin (RIP) said it way better than I ever could.

Fair comment.

[TiroFijo]

George Carlin (RIP) said it way better than I ever could.

[RichardCranium]

We've had the technical ability to remote work for over 20 years. I was working at BT during the time they were trying to sell the concept of remote working to their customers whilst not enabling it for their own staff.

Indeed.

15 or 16 years ago I worked for BT Managed Network Services in Apsley, Hertfordshire; the other half of BT MNS worked at Euston. All day, every day, people shuttled back and forth up that railway line to attend meetings at the other site because we were not allowed to use the bleeding-edge teleconferencing suites installed at each office. Instead they were used only once per month by senior management and were kept locked the rest of the time.

[TheBigYinJames]

Infrastructure has been built around the car. Hopefully remote working, with better voice and video implementations will mean more branch offices with smaller presence. Large cities are significantly more costly to operate when compared to small towns.

We've had the technical ability to remote work for over 20 years. I was working at BT during the time they were trying to sell the concept of remote working to their customers whilst not enabling it for their own staff. Until companies get taxed for forcing bums on seats when it's not neccessary, they'll still force us to come in.

[BlasterBates]

another possibility would be to call it:

no change at all

[larson]

Isn't it better to call it "severely accelerated climate change," rather than just "global warming"?

I think human development has accelerated the change in climate, going forwards - in normal change evolutionary aspects allow species to adapt. Accelerated change thwarts the adaption process, which is one of the major issues.

Infrastructure has been built around the car. Hopefully remote working, with better voice and video implementations will mean more branch offices with smaller presence. Large cities are significantly more costly to operate when compared to small towns.

[threaded]

Trouble is, people who don't breed get removed from the gene pool, leaving more breeders.

I understand that this global warming thing is supposed to be happening at a very fast rate, I'm guessing here, but this is quite possibly much faster than the procreation rates of humans could be increased by natural selection to fill the gap.



(Although I've met more than one project manager that thinks 9 women can make a baby in one month, so I might be missing something.)

[TimberWolf]

I have the simplest most obvious cure to this problem, and my cure is guaranteed to work, yet no environ-politicians I've seen, or heard, actually talks about it in anything like the terms they use for SUVs, burning coal etc.

The cure is straight forward and extremely easy to implement: it is for all these environmentalists/politicians to not breed. Possibly even top themselves.

My plan will save so much more carbon footprint than making some of the more expensive cars more expensive to people who already have so much money that they don't really notice.

Now it is obvious even to the gurus of the world that my cure would work, is extremely easy to implement, and costs nothing, and because all I see is these fake environmentalists talking about raising taxes, I know they don't really care about the environment at all, but are all about the politics of envy.

HTH

Trouble is, people who don't breed get removed from the gene pool, leaving more breeders.

[threaded]

Global warming is a side issue, a symptom of a greater disease. The problem is population and the increase in standards of living picking up pace worldwide. Mix exponential growth with finite resources and you have an unavoidable and spectacular end. And everything looks fine until just before things goes bang. At some stage, probably not far off, zero or negative growth is a mathematical certainty if we don't have a spectacular collapse before hand.

I have the simplest most obvious cure to this problem, and my cure is guaranteed to work, yet no environ-politicians I've seen, or heard, actually talks about it in anything like the terms they use for SUVs, burning coal etc.

The cure is straight forward and extremely easy to implement: it is for all these environmentalists/politicians to not breed. Possibly even top themselves.

My plan will save so much more carbon footprint than making some of the more expensive cars more expensive to people who already have so much money that they don't really notice.

Now it is obvious even to the gurus of the world that my cure would work, is extremely easy to implement, and costs nothing, and because all I see is these fake environmentalists talking about raising taxes, I know they don't really care about the environment at all, but are all about the politics of envy.

HTH

[ratewhore]

The problem is population and the increase in standards of living picking up pace worldwide. Mix exponential growth with finite resources and you have an unavoidable and spectacular end.

Nail, head, hit...

[TheBigYinJames]

Scare tactics get my back up also.

The problem for me is, I agree with more recycling, cutting energy and fuel use, etc etc. These are all worthy goals worth pursuing on their own. I don't need to be scared by threats of the burny fire.

[EternalOptimist]

Scare tactics get my back up also.

The other line, taken by a couple here is, 'Even if we are wrong, we will end up doing the right thing, for the wrong reasons'

[TheBigYinJames]

I think most skepticism arise from the politicalisation of the issues.

For me, that's true. Also the false logic of "if we're right and we could have done something about it.. therefore we must" scare tactic argument.

[BlasterBates]

nice quote from Bill Clinton

Elsewhere in his remarks, he noted he was speaking on the night before the start of spring, “otherwise known to Al Gore as proof of global warming.”

http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2010/0...and-the-press/


kind of sums up the Global warming argument really.

[Flubster]

It's all down to cows producing methane. I don't care if this contributes to global warming as I like my meat too much. End of discussion.