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Originally posted by cailin maith View PostIs that the me-ow thingy that those young fella's took last weekend?
Terrible sad
The guys took a load of booze and a concoction of drugs over many hours. I don't understand why mephedrone has been targetted in this stuff. I've seen, as I've grown up, the way in which drugs get mistakenly blamed and then targetted as if they are the original problem.
If someone can go out and get píshed off their face, why can't the same person have a wee dose or some chemical that has an effect on the brain, albeit different from that of alcohol or massive amounts of caffeine.
Abuse of alcohol causes problems, as does abuse of drugs. People even take heroin recreationally these days; I think addiction is more to do with the person than the drug, there are few self-aware smart people that have been swallowed by the common dance drugs out there. Heroin is of course in a class of its own and deserves its class A status.
This chasing after the small-time legal highs seems so pathetic to me - and for those who will inevitably mention the young adults' parents: the guys were young adults, and clearly weren't smart enough to go research what they were doing. If they had died after boozing too much and choking on their own vomit, it would be a tragedy, but it would also show that the young men had some issue - the effects of abusing anything, and not adhering to moderation, are well known for most things in life.
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An old mate of mine tried it several times last year. He swears he'll never touch it again after he got some in his eye and had to go to the docs after it swelled up.
He was meant to be doing my building work and looked like tulip with a puffed up face all week and complained about feeling bad. He is the kind of moron though who is nearly 40 and will do it with 20 pints and stay up until 10 am the next day. May not be a reliable measure.
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I think the problem is that it's so cheap, and the postman actually delivers it to your door. So everyone is ordering silly amounts, and doing it...
Really good.... but I'd rather do a known substance, C, md. rar...all been tested and we know most of the bad effects.
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Originally posted by Ardesco View PostSo something that is packaged and sold as plant food has been taken by people to get high, and because two kids have died while taking it (which is a tragedy, don't get me wrong on that) it should be banned.
If it's right to ban mephedrone, surely we should be banning glue as well? Far more people have died from solvent abuse.
While we are at it lets ban alcohol and cigarettes too, they have killed millions. What about horse tranquillizers? the list is virtually never ending. If it can play with your mind there is going to be somebody who will try taking it for a laugh or to get high, why should we ban something because some idiot didn't use it for the right purpose?
They key point here is that there is no other use for Mephedrone other than to get high, unlike glue or solvents. It's not even a licensed medicine.
Ketamine ( horse tranquillizers ) are already a class C drug.
Cigarettes and Alcohol are an anachronism I grant you, yes they kill, yes they are addictive, but society as it presently is tolerates their use. That may change with cigarettes sooner than alcohol but not in the near future.
You may argue that drugs in general should be legal but that is a different issue. Under the present legal system they are illegal, and banning Mephedrone is perfectly logical in that context.
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Originally posted by minestrone View PostI have been thinking about giving it a go for a while, there is a head shop down the road from work and I might get some grams tomorrow.
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I have been thinking about giving it a go for a while, there is a head shop down the road from work and I might get some grams tomorrow.
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Originally posted by minestrone View PostThey took a lot more tulip than that the mephadrone, but the "mephadrone" killed them
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Originally posted by DaveB View PostIt is the stuff the two lads took. It's not plant food, thats just the front for importing it to get around the medicines regulations. It's made in China and the far east and shipped over here as plant food.
If it's right to ban mephedrone, surely we should be banning glue as well? Far more people have died from solvent abuse.
While we are at it lets ban alcohol and cigarettes too, they have killed millions. What about horse tranquillizers? the list is virtually never ending. If it can play with your mind there is going to be somebody who will try taking it for a laugh or to get high, why should we ban something because some idiot didn't use it for the right purpose?
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They took a lot more tulip than that the mephadrone, but the "mephadrone" killed them
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I am in favour of listening to the board that actually classifies these things.
Listening to the Daily Wail/Diana Express/other self-righteous media is the road to ruin...
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Originally posted by cailin maith View PostIs that the me-ow thingy that those young fella's took last weekend?
Terrible sad
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Originally posted by Ardesco View PostWhy?
It's plant food, what next ban glue?Originally posted by cailin maith View PostIs that the me-ow thingy that those young fella's took last weekend?
Terrible sad
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