Reply to: Are you a paranoid schizophrenic?

[MarillionFan]

Just quoting him for future reference.

Quoting me or Dave?

[HairyArsedBloke]

I agree. I have never heard voices. My mate Dave though who sits with me all day and night does tell me to kill prostitutes though! He says they're evil!

Just quoting him for future reference.

[MarillionFan]

I am clearly, to use a popular phrase, mad as a box of frogs, but I can honestly say in my 50+ years that I have never 'heard voices', or any of the other things they ask like having thoughts been put into my head or others can read my mind.

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I agree. I have never heard voices. My mate Dave though who sits with me all day and night does tell me to kill prostitutes though! He says they're evil!

[HairyArsedBloke]

I think some people obviously do have issues (erm, perhaps me thinking surely everyone has heard voices at least once in their life) but it's the overall context that should be looked at.

I am clearly, to use a popular phrase, mad as a box of frogs, but I can honestly say in my 50+ years that I have never 'heard voices', or any of the other things they ask like having thoughts been put into my head or others can read my mind.

When I was at university, I briefly, dated a psychology student. I rapidly came to the conclusion that she was completely barking. So were all the others on her course. I believe that they only study the subject so they can try to understand what is wrong with themselves. The problem is that they then go on to have jobs in the area and they then project all their problems onto others.

[suityou01]

http://www.blogthings.com/areyouapar...zophrenicquiz/

Hot on the heels of the Aspergers test?

I scored 0.

don't even need to do the test.

[northernrampage]

Skip a shower, etc - that 's because I'm living all alone at the moment and I'm a lazy fraker.

You are often withdrawn and don't talk much. - see above.

You are clumsy and uncoordinated. / You have lost interest in life. - It's called 'getting old'.

And so on. < mode id="sensible">My point being that these tests, not only the popular ones but the professional ones too, are all worthless. Answers can be given that support a diagnosis of paranoia, etc that have rational reasons behind them. Not only are they worthless, they are dangerous as they can, and often are, abused.< /mode>

Yeah... I kind of agree. I did a psychology degree, done a fair bit of reading about personality disorders etc and it can be subjective. Questions to do with how much time you like to spend alone, or do you have anger etc... according to what? What's it being measured against?

And the same for some of the ones for mental illness. For anxiety/depression etc, the doctors will test you on a scale, and again, it depends what you're being tested against. Feeling down and hopeless once a day may not be that big a deal, it could just be for five minutes when you're under pressure.... that's why to diagnose it's not always simple.

I think some people obviously do have issues (erm, perhaps me thinking surely everyone has heard voices at least once in their life) but it's the overall context that should be looked at.

[norrahe]

I used to read Tarot (quite well actually) but I still didn't tick the box

Neither did I. My cards haven't seen the light of day in years.

[norrahe]

I think ADHD is a real condition, but the frequency of diagnosis is totally out of proportion to the actual incidence thereof.

I agree that it is a real condition, but is an excuse for parents who can't control their children and in today's nanny socity becoming all too prevalent.

[Platypus]

ADHD is a real condition, but the frequency of diagnosis is totally out of proportion to the actual incidence thereof.

Spot on.

[Platypus]

I think you can lump tests for symptoms of ADHD into the aforementioned.
I think someone on here got it spot on, that ADHD is another word for spoilt, overindulged, brats.
Parents want an excuse for why their child behaves the way it does, well they only have to blame themselves. They have allowed their child to behave like that.

Yes and no - A customer of mine has someone who is defo ADD working for him. This guy can't stay on task for more than a few minutes. But having said that, he's pretty clever and gets the job done in his own fashion.

I didn't believe that ADD really existed until I met this person.

[NickFitz]

I think you can lump tests for symptoms of ADHD into the aforementioned.
I think someone on here got it spot on, that ADHD is another word for spoilt, overindulged, brats.
Parents want an excuse for why their child behaves the way it does, well they only have to blame themselves. They have allowed their child to behave like that.

I think ADHD is a real condition, but the frequency of diagnosis is totally out of proportion to the actual incidence thereof.

I believe rates of diagnosis are much higher among middle-class Americans than other social groups. Interestingly, these are the ones whose medical insurance can pay for the expensive medication used to control the "condition".

EDIT: a quick Google throws up the following:

The per capita consumption of methylphenidate in the United States between 2003 and 2005 was approximately six times greater than that of Australia, eight times greater than that of Spain, and 18 times greater than that of Chile (3). If the prevalence of hyperactive symptoms is indeed similar among these countries, this probably means that a "hyperactivity disorder" deserving treatment in one country is seen by parents and physicians as a nonmedical condition (perhaps at the higher end of the "childhood activity spectrum") elsewhere.

- letter to The American Journal of Psychiatry

[Platypus]

I had to tick the future prediction one

I used to read Tarot (quite well actually) but I still didn't tick the box

[norrahe]

And so on. < mode id="sensible">My point being that these tests, not only the popular ones but the professional ones too, are all worthless. Answers can be given that support a diagnosis of paranoia, etc that have rational reasons behind them. Not only are they worthless, they are dangerous as they can, and often are, abused.< /mode>

I think you can lump tests for symptoms of ADHD into the aforementioned.
I think someone on here got it spot on, that ADHD is another word for spoilt, overindulged, brats.
Parents want an excuse for why their child behaves the way it does, well they only have to blame themselves. They have allowed their child to behave like that.

Which is why i'm often shocked when some friends have well mannered children who are nicely behaved.

[SuperZ]

I had to tick the future prediction one - it's me living, or partly anyway! I don't mean 'Flash forward' stuff, but I do financial analysis and I'm a speckulant.

As to 'they' are out to get me. Well there is AtW, Hector, ........

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Yeah, I know how easy it can be to select yes to other options. For example, the withdrawn question, occassionally I can feel like that (single, work from home), but not what I consider often, so I didn't tick , but could have .

Oh, must now go and have a shower so another answer isn't true either .

And yep, they are indeed dangerous tests.

[HairyArsedBloke]

Those questions were so obvious. Anyone who ticks just a few box would surely already know they had some serious issues. The future prediction one is probably the only question that a yes to would not be indicative of some issue, unless of course people really are out to get you which would mean 2 ticks okay

I had to tick the future prediction one - it's me living, or partly anyway! I don't mean 'Flash forward' stuff, but I do financial analysis and I'm a speckulant.

As to 'they' are out to get me. Well there is AtW, Hector, ........

Skip a shower, etc - that 's because I'm living all alone at the moment and I'm a lazy fraker.

You are often withdrawn and don't talk much. - see above.

You are clumsy and uncoordinated. / You have lost interest in life. - It's called 'getting old'.

And so on. < mode id="sensible">My point being that these tests, not only the popular ones but the professional ones too, are all worthless. Answers can be given that support a diagnosis of paranoia, etc that have rational reasons behind them. Not only are they worthless, they are dangerous as they can, and often are, abused.< /mode>