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[AtW]

Sun have lost the plot

Their pricing was a (n expensive) joke for a long time.

But as they said back then - nobody gets fired for buying Oracle and Sun

[Platypus]

I do hope Oracle will push Sun's best product lines

least crap

Sun have lost the plot

[minestrone]

http://www.sun.com - it's all Oracle-y....

And I can't find owt, it's a mess, looks a primitive merge of oracle.com and sun.com......

I was looking through the site today for APIs and hit an error.

http://www.java.com/hc3.asp

Noticed that the java site is an asp site now, jesus wept.

[PAH]

FTFY

We're independent freelancers on here. There's no me in workgroup* so I totally ignore that version.

*The permies can have all the brown nose/bag lunches they want.

[ctdctd]

That explains the jump from Windows 3.11 for workgroups to 95.

FTFY

[PAH]

Because it's psychological - start at a higher number and it looks like you have a robust product that has been around for a while. For the same reason that Oracle DB started at 5 IIRC.

That explains the jump from Windows 3.1 to 95.

[TheFaQQer]

Well I meant from Sun's so-called portfolio,

Sun have no portfolio now that they have no company

MySQL won't disappear from Oracle's portfolio, though, any more than InnoDB disappeared.

I still have a copy of Sun Linux 4.0 - why start at 4.0, never even got to 4.1, Sun try and reject a lot....

Because it's psychological - start at a higher number and it looks like you have a robust product that has been around for a while. For the same reason that Oracle DB started at 5 IIRC.

[TheFaQQer]

And yet, they still haven't corrected the text here.

Deploy an unlimited number of MySQL Enterprise Servers for the price of a single CPU of Oracle Enterprise Edition
...
For less than the price of a single CPU of Oracle Enterprise Edition ($47,000 per CPU), companies with up to 1000 employees can deploy an unlimited number of MySQL Enterprise Servers, with full 24x7 production support. You also get unlimited 24x7 access to MySQL Enterprise Monitor.

[PAH]

Oracle:

DB, IdM stuff, RAC, Financials

SUN;

Hardware, Solaris, LDAP, Sunray, SSGD

Not sure;

Appserver? Think it might be Glassfish. VM's? Got to be Sun VxM and VDI - it's early days for that but it's worth it, at the moment Sunray/SSGD/VDI/VMware works a treat, VMware could be replaced with Sun VxM pretty soon...

Phew, at least after reading that I know I'm not as geeky as some think, I haven't a clue what most of those acronyms mean! SUN, RAC, DB ...

Cheers for making me feel human again.

[stek]

Good job it's open source

Well I meant from Sun's so-called portfolio, I still have a copy of Sun Linux 4.0 - why start at 4.0, never even got to 4.1, Sun try and reject a lot....

I think;

Oracle:

DB, IdM stuff, RAC, Financials

SUN;

Hardware, Solaris, LDAP, Sunray, SSGD

Not sure;

Appserver? Think it might be Glassfish. VM's? Got to be Sun VxM and VDI - it's early days for that but it's worth it, at the moment Sunray/SSGD/VDI/VMware works a treat, VMware could be replaced with Sun VxM pretty soon...

[NickFitz]

I think MySQL will disappear

Good job it's open source

[PAH]

I think MySQL will disappear

You mean totally, so all those freeloaders that don't want to sell a kidney for Oracle or SQL Server will have to find something else?

I don't think they'll be happy having to use SQL Server Express.

[stek]

They have even changed http://java.sun.com/ to be branded with oracle.

I still put www.javasoft.com to get to that site and that URL has been gone for nearly 10 years.

it will be intersting to see which products get dropped in the next few months.

I think MySQL will disappear like Sun Linux did a few years back like it never happened....

Also a bit worrying for me since I do Sun IdM I think the Sun offering will go and be replaced with OAM etc, but the Oracle stuff is easier to work with. I reckon Sun DS will stay since it's already on the road to OpenDS anyway. Be interesting.

I do hope Oracle will push Sun's best product lines in my view (apart from DS and SPARC in general), SunRay and VDI, and SSGD, formerly Tarantella. TTA is infinitely preferable to Citrix, the worst piece of software sold by anyone, anywhere as an enterprise product....

[minestrone]

They have even changed http://java.sun.com/ to be branded with oracle.

I still put www.javasoft.com to get to that site and that URL has been gone for nearly 10 years.

it will be intersting to see which products get dropped in the next few months.

[AtW]

http://www.sun.com - it's all Oracle-y....

And I can't find owt, it's a mess, looks a primitive merge of oracle.com and sun.com......