Reply to: Had an Interview with the Indians at one of the Indian IT Empires ,

[Walsingham]

I’ve had more than 20 years in IT now, most of them as a contractor. I’ve worked with people from all over the place. Nearly all of the Aussies, Kiwis and South Africans have been first class. I’ve had useful colleagues from places like Iran and Iraq. Some very handy Germans, Irish, Chinese, Nigerians, Danes, Swedes, Italians, Spaniards and Greeks. A near genius Turk and plenty of decent British Indians and Pakistanis but I’ve honestly never worked with an Indian national that I would class as much more than “adequate”.

For the life of me I cannot understand how such a mediocre bunch have managed to colonise the global IT market so successfully.

[minestrone]

The Bob that sits close to me gets relentlessly bullied by his UK manager, it is a small victory but I do quite enjoy hearing it.

[HairyArsedBloke]

Lets hope it never happens under the tories and the B'liar effect means we get 'call me dave'.

[vetran]

Lets hope their penny pinching kills their market. Last thing we want is well known IT consulting and car manufacturers developing MS Office, oh wait they may have done that someone must understand that blasted ribbon.

I had an exit interview (there is a good chance of you being hired give us all your CVs and we will interview next week) with the incoming Indians as far as I could see it was a CV gathering exercise so they could nick the best bits for their "consultants" and probably hassle my ex employers. If I'd known I'd have added my expertise in Syphillis 4.6 and BSBingo 1.01.

Lets hope it never happens under the tories and the B'liar effect means we get 'call me dave'.

[Sysman]

Got a call back later that day a couple of days before I was due to start, he'd been talking to the finance guys and they couldn't pay the rate they'd offered, so they were going to hire a fresh graduate for 1/3 of the money. A fresh grad for 1/3 of an OKish rate to pretty much single handedly program their flagship project cementing a possibly lucrative new relationship with Microsoft... Good luck...

And they wonder why projects go wrong?

[Spacecadet]

try doing the opposite. Go to India and set up a company only giving jobs to white Brits. You would probably end up in jail. Would certainly be bankrupt after a couple of months having to pay 20x the local going rate.

FTFY

[ContractTester]

only works one way

try doing the opposite. Go to India and set up a company only giving jobs to white Brits. You would probably end up in jail. Would certainly be booted out of the country. The UK is not prepared to protect its own people.

[newblood]

No worries.

hehe , thanks RC , that is the most action I had in months, haha.

[Scary]

I had an interview with HCL. They were offering an OKish rate and gave me a phone interview to a couple of their guys in India and between the bad line and the thick accents I could hardly make out a word. I gave answers to the questions I thought they were asking (pretty simple .net stuff) and after 10 minutes they thanked me for my time so I pretty much wrote off my chances.

A few days later I got the call "Congratulations! Your interview was successful, can you come to our offices and meet me in person." so I went to their offices and met the HR guy who told me about their project, a flagship first project for Microsoft, if this was successful a lot more work would be coming from that direction. I'd probably be starting a week on Monday, he'd email the next day with my contract etc.

So the next day, nothing, or the day after... So I called the guy a few times, no answer. After the weekend, no one taking calls. This was New Year's Eve,
after new year called again, no answer.

Got a call back later that day a couple of days before I was due to start, he'd been talking to the finance guys and they couldn't pay the rate they'd offered, so they were going to hire a fresh graduate for 1/3 of the money. A fresh grad for 1/3 of an OKish rate to pretty much single handedly program their flagship project cementing a possibly lucrative new relationship with Microsoft... Good luck...

[RichardCranium]

Some other time RC , not in the mood.

No worries.

[Churchill]

Some other time RC , not in the mood.

I won't be getting this last one with the Indians , most likely because I am not an indian, since technical knowledge - the problem not is.

But this is a two way street. On Odesk I am the chief. When I get my projects on there , I will be the guy saying who lives and who dies.

Not bitter then, eh?

[newblood]

Yes. Otherwise we cannot help.

Your CV must be good and our application strategy must be good since you are getting interviews. That is all good stuff.

But what is going wrong at the interviews?

Some other time RC , not in the mood.

I won't be getting this last one with the Indians , most likely because I am not an indian, since technical knowledge - the problem not is.

But this is a two way street. On Odesk I am the chief. When I get my projects on there , I will be the guy saying who lives and who dies.

[Incognito]

I worked on NHS Spine for 30 months on a certain set of apps, SDS, ETP, GAZ, EPR, SASS, SCUD for those ITK, I know them like the back of my hand...

Anyway, culled in the Great BT Contractor Cull of March 2009, got an interview for a contract on same apps, but this time for Mastek, BT's offshore development people. Interview was a piece of pîss, guy asked for Mastek Developers I worked with, gave him two names, these two lads called me back and said they'd had a call, praised me etc, etc, great guy, etc. etc...

Didn't get it, not experienced enough apparently....

And, was half the pre-cull rate, less in fact, was on 420, this was 180....

And the guy who got is.....?

Guess which nationality?

Have you contacted PCG about this, great example of the ICT transfer scheme being abused, espically if the guy who got the role has no clue of the apps. Get in touch with malvolio.

[RichardCranium]

should I bother to share details?

Yes. Otherwise we cannot help.

Your CV must be good and our application strategy must be good since you are getting interviews. That is all good stuff.

But what is going wrong at the interviews?

[Churchill]

I worked on NHS Spine for 30 months on a certain set of apps, SDS, ETP, GAZ, EPR, SASS, SCUD for those ITK, I know them like the back of my hand...

Anyway, culled in the Great BT Contractor Cull of March 2009, got an interview for a contract on same apps, but this time for Mastek, BT's offshore development people. Interview was a piece of pîss, guy asked for Mastek Developers I worked with, gave him two names, these two lads called me back and said they'd had a call, praised me etc, etc, great guy, etc. etc...

Didn't get it, not experienced enough apparently....

And, was half the pre-cull rate, less in fact, was on 420, this was 180....

And the guy who got is.....?

Guess which nationality?

Indian, innit?