Reply to: Those Knutford jobs

[Drewster]

I love those jobserve adverts where the agents highlights the rate with words like, "Please note the rate quoted".

Or when they say "Depending on experience"..... and then when you give your rate they say - "We are getting people asking 1/2 that rate......"

Thats because they haven't got any 'kin EXPERIENCE - Does the role need experience or can it be done by a 'kin Numpty like SAS?
If its a Numpty role then tell me and don't waste my 'kin time.... you will not get an experienced guy/girl at that rate... FFS

[OrangeHopper]

I love those jobserve adverts where the agents highlights the rate with words like, "Please note the rate quoted".

[Tingles]

Just had 'Winter' on the phone (well not Winter but another seasonal agent)...


Role : Finance in Cheshire...

She says I'm right for the role except. ahem, the role's a bit low...

I say - Low, how low?

She says she's too embarassed to say...

I say - Cheshire, finance - it must be Barc**** - so it must be really low.

She laughs

I say - my rate minus £175?

She says come on it is Barc****!!

I told her, I've enjoyed our conversation and then wished her a good weekend.

It comes to something when the agents are so embarassed with the rates...


How we laughed...



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[Mich the Tester]

Me too, well on Monday (in jolly old Münster as well) I will be

Muenster? You lucky fellow! A splendid and cultured city indeed!

I have temporary lodgings in the fine Hanseatic town of Haarlem, renowned for perhaps the greatest choice of fine restaurants in the Netherlands, with the possible exception of Maastricht. 600 euros a day in one of Europe’s leading culinary cities is a life many others would envy!

[darmstadt]

I'm on 600 euros per day right now.

Sorry, that was uncalled for.

Me too, well on Monday (in jolly old Münster as well) I will be

[Mich the Tester]

Interesting

a permie salary of 44k per year puts you in the top 10% of salary earners in the uk.

so if £190 is about 40k then you would be in the top 15 - ok I know that you have all of your employer costs coming out of this but also if you run a limited you can get the relevant tax breaks etc and probably end up with similar in the back pocket figures to the permie salary.

So the next question is what would you guys be happy with? A salary in the top 5% in the country (equates to about £58k per year)

I think in these recesions struck times a little bit of intelligence may come in useful.

I mean 100% of £180 per day is a fu<k lot more the 0% of £500 per day!

I'm on 600 euros per day right now.

Sorry, that was uncalled for.

[original PM]

Interesting

a permie salary of 44k per year puts you in the top 10% of salary earners in the uk.

so if £190 is about 40k then you would be in the top 15 - ok I know that you have all of your employer costs coming out of this but also if you run a limited you can get the relevant tax breaks etc and probably end up with similar in the back pocket figures to the permie salary.

So the next question is what would you guys be happy with? A salary in the top 5% in the country (equates to about £58k per year)

I think in these recesions struck times a little bit of intelligence may come in useful.

I mean 100% of £180 per day is a fu<k lot more the 0% of £500 per day!

[BoredBloke]

All the ones that I've been getting have now changed the location to Manchester, agents must be reading this board

It's more likely that stating Knutsford means that people know who the end client is - Manchester makes that a little harder!

[darmstadt]

All the ones that I've been getting have now changed the location to Manchester, agents must be reading this board

[cojak]

Where's Bob?

Somewhere on the M6 I would imagine...

[Mich the Tester]

Current Tech Mahindra/Knutsford roles.

Software Licence Specialist £180
Business Analyst - Communication £180
Technical Specialist - DB2 £240
DB2 DBA/Engineer £240
Infrastructure Specialist £340
Technical Analyst £180

Where's Bob?

[OrangeHopper]

Current Tech Mahindra/Knutsford roles.

Software Licence Specialist £180
Business Analyst - Communication £180
Technical Specialist - DB2 £240
DB2 DBA/Engineer £240
Infrastructure Specialist £340
Technical Analyst £180

[rootsnall]

Perhaps 40k a year is the going permie rate for that role but the permie headline rate is not the overall cost of emoployment. On top of that 40k is employers NI, pension contributions, training and holiday/sickness pay. That 40k is more like 60k with everything taken into account.

What we found at BT was they basically advertised the roles at half the day rate

You know that and I know that, but the govt body who are so called policing it will likely accept it. If you have a documented case then get it reported.

[Churchill]

Never heard of 'em. The only Knutsford I know of is a service station on the M6 where I was forever getiing stranded whilst hitchhiking.

As others have probably mentioned, Barclays have a place called Radbroke Hall out in Knutsford. Probably got some Indian based off-shoring firm in who want plenty cheapness much quickness!

The won't get anyone from the UK on that reate so will then use it as justification to bring in one of their own chaps from Sunnier Climes...

[BoredBloke]

Is this the sort of evidence the PCG are collecting ? I suspect they will just say £190 a day is £40K+ pa which is the going rate ( or better ) for the the role.

Perhaps 40k a year is the going permie rate for that role but the permie headline rate is not the overall cost of emoployment. On top of that 40k is employers NI, pension contributions, training and holiday/sickness pay. That 40k is more like 60k with everything taken into account.

What we found at BT was they basically advertised the roles at half the day rate