Reply to: The Thaw

[Platypus]

Wot?

False alarm

[Bunk]

Bunk

Wot?

[Platypus]

Amusingly, the problem of snow clearance and the country's general unpreparedness for snow was raised in the Lords in 1955 !

http://hansard.millbanksystems.com/l...snow-clearance

I want to suggest that we who periodically get these bouts of snow, and who periodically try to convince ourselves that we are a country which has no snow, have reached the time when we should endeavour to embark on a long-term plan.

[Tingles]

apparently if you do not clear your drive/path and someone slips on it they cannot sue you as snow is an act of God

but if you do clear your path and some slips on it they can sue you as it is then your fault.


And we wonder why the country is going to hell in a handbasket!

I thought it was handcart???

[RichardCranium]

see if you try and help you can be sued but if you do flip all you cannot be

maybe I am missing the point somewhere??

If you leave the world in its natural state and allow others to tackle it on their own, you are safe.

If you tamper with the natural order of things and, as a consequence, somebody gets hurt, surely it is right you should be held responsible?



However, if your drive has ice on it, I agree, do something about it. But if it is snow, just leave it.

[Platypus]

apparently if you do not clear your drive/path and someone slips on it they cannot sue you as snow is an act of God

but if you do clear your path and some slips on it they can sue you as it is then your fault.


And we wonder why the country is going to hell in a handbasket!

Bunk

Also, http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/8443745.stm

you are taking a theoretical legal risk if you clear the pavement in front of your home.

It's the local authority's responsibility to clear snow and ice from the public highway. By sweeping snow from one part of the pavement to another, if done in a manner that caused injury to someone, there is a chance legal action could be taken against you on the basis you had created a nuisance under tort law.

But, Paul Kitson, a partner with leading personal injury solicitors Russell Jones & Walker, explains that a claimant would have to show you had acted either maliciously or carelessly, and that such a case would often be tricky in practice.

"It would be quite difficult to prove and quite difficult to proceed with a claim."

On your own land, it is a different matter. You owe visitors a duty under the Occupiers Liability Act 1984 to take reasonable care to ensure that they are reasonably safe. So if you know someone is likely to walk up your garden path, like the milkman, and you know it's slippery, you must take reasonable steps to clear it and grit it if necessary.

[original PM]

hmmm not sure where you are coming from

lets try again

If you try and clear your path to do a public service for someone (say the postman to help him deliver your letters) and he slips he can sue you.

But if you think feck it let the posty struggle in the snow and he slips it is an act of god.

see if you try and help you can be sued but if you do feck all you cannot be

maybe I am missing the point somehwhere??

[RichardCranium]

apparently if you do not clear your drive/path and someone slips on it they cannot sue you as snow is an act of God

but if you do clear your path and some slips on it they can sue you as it is then your fault.

I really cannot see any problem with that at all.

Do you want me to stand on the pavement with a brolly and make sure you don't get wet and catch a cold, too?

[original PM]

apparently if you do not clear your drive/path and someone slips on it they cannot sue you as snow is an act of God

but if you do clear your path and some slips on it they can sue you as it is then your fault.


And we wonder why the country is going to hell in a handbasket!

[DodgyAgent]

Has begun here, oh joy.
Now only flood stories to look forward to in the news.

Is he any relation to John?

[Numpty]

All I wanted for Chrithmath wath my two front teeth, but Thanta got me thomething elthe. Never mind.


I went to the park today.

I like going to the park.

I played on the thwingth. But they were covered in thnow.

I played on the roundabout. But it wath thurrounded by thluth.

I played on the big thlide. But it wath covered in ithe.

I wath very thad.

But I wath happy when I went on my favourite: the Thee Thaw.

[SuperZ]

Because where my neighbours have tried to clear their fronts, they are icy and dangerous. Where, like me, it has been left, it is simply covered in snow.

Because we won the war.

The numpties are supposed to grit or salt their fronts once cleared of snow.

[BlasterBates]

Don't hold your breath with the thaw, according to the met office looks like just a temporary lull. Hope they're stocking up on plenty of salt.

You're better off shovelling the snow off otherwise instead of a thin layer of ice you end up with a a thick layer of ice, that takes days to melt. The streets in my home town were like ice rinks over Christmas. At least the drives and in front of them were clear.

[Pogle]

Because where my neighbours have tried to clear their fronts, they are icy and dangerous. Where, like me, it has been left, it is simply covered in snow.

Because we won the war.

agreed - This was very obvious this morning and this afternoon walking to and from school with Pogle Jr, the cleared bits were far more slippery.

[Doggy Styles]

Because we won the war.

Damn right we did.