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FrankScribe replied

12 December 2005, 15:34
Thanks for that, the problem I have with that solution is twofold. I want the extension so that I can pay cash for a new car in April/May and I want to stuff the pimp for trying to jerk me around - Taking the immediate permie option satisfies neither.
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Board Game Geek replied

12 December 2005, 02:08
Solution

From what I hear, the Client are pushing for a fixed cost per month, and as such will be taking the % away from the Client.

This has obviously rattled the agent, as I am sure he likes to earn his % for doing no more than supplying them a fresh, warm body.

It sounds like the Client are forcing the agent in to a corner. Your job, my son, is to close off the Agent's escape routes.

The Agent will try every trick in the book to try to ensure he has a source of continual income with the Client, obviously at your expense. If this means offering someone else at a lower rate than you, then rest assured you will not be on the Agent's books for long.

My advice to you is to explain to the Client that the Agent will try anything to ensure they recieve a monthly % on whoever they supply, and you have grave misgivings that the Agent's greed is going to undermine the Client - Agent business relationship by supplying sub-standard resource.

Explain to the Hirer that the Agent has only his own interests at heart, and when the 5hit hits the fan internally, the recruiter will take the fall.

Offer the recruiter an elegant way out. You will take the permie offer to ensure that his ar5e is covered, at a rate agreeable to both of you.

Explain that the only other option is for the Agent to replace you with a less-skilled and capable person, which will reflect badly on the recruiter, whislt the Agent laughs all the way to the bank.

Telll the recruiter that whilst you are a contractor, you really do sympathise with the recruiter's position and gain his trust. You are not "here" to screw him out of a %, unlike an Agent. You are here to do a job and do it well. Laugh with him and say "At the end of the say, You run a business and so do I. Anything else (3rd party) is somewhat superflous and more cost. How can I work with you to keep your overheards low ?"

The Recruiter will soon start to see the only solution.
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FrankScribe replied

11 December 2005, 17:08
I agree ............................

On Friday mine called to say he was meeting The Client on 20th to discuss the conversion of my current contract to permanent. I pointed out that The Client was quite happy for me to extend the current contract and to improve the rate as well.

At this point the pimp climbed on his high horse to say that I had obviously told The Client what my rate was and this was a contravention of my contract and was going to make negotiations difficult for him. Actually, I don't know how they got to know my rate, though it is possible that, when I was recruiting a couple of contract planners I might have made a comparison in passing (especially as one is on a higher rate than me - but he does have higher costs too).

Discussion then went along on the lines that he had to represent the Clients interest as well as mine - strange that, I thought that was their job. I guess what he really meant was that he has to look after HIS interests above all and maybe he had been less than open (honest?) about his percentage.

So, the question is, if he doesn't deliver. Should I accept the perm post then bail out quickly so that he looses both his monthly cut of my earnings and any entitlement to a placement fee for the perm position?

Troubles is, I do actually quite like the job
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DodgyAgent replied

9 December 2005, 16:41
Originally posted by n5gooner

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no sorry guys did not work !!!
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stop beating about the Bush and tell uncle DA what your problem is
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DaveB replied

9 December 2005, 16:05
Originally posted by MrsGoof

edit to tidy it up a bit.. now where's the hoover

I finds plastic sheeting, a roll of carpet and a bucket of quicklime works much better
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MrsGoof replied

9 December 2005, 15:45
Just spoke to one so deserves another, Its like talking to Eurocrats creating paperwork the sake of cutting down trees

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edit to tidy it up a bit.. now where's the hoover
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PerlOfWisdom replied

9 December 2005, 15:22
Originally posted by MrsGoof

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MrsGoof replied

9 December 2005, 15:17
Several years ago a Project manager was given the task of standardising PC / WINDOZE kit and to find a sole supplier.

Several suppliers were wittled down to 3 and some test kit was delivered to assess their qualities. All seemed well untill the 2nd week when one suppliers kit appeared to spontaneously combust (faulty PSUs I believe).

Amazingly that became the chosen one and the PM ended up with a nice wedge also.

I know this does not quite answer your question but may give help you move towards it!
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n5gooner replied

9 December 2005, 14:54
fecking De!! - how can a company the size of the one I'm contracted to let De!! dictate when a change should happen! Un fecking believable!
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MrsGoof replied

9 December 2005, 14:41
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n5gooner started a topic fecking pimps........

9 December 2005, 14:11
fecking pimps........

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no - did not work - still don't feel better.....

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no sorry guys did not work !!!
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