Reply to: That new Star trek

[gingerjedi]

And if you think ST was a load of over-hyped rubbish - which it was - wait until you see Avatar. It's a 2 hour yawn-fest. Even the graphics don't save it. Once again, don't believe the hype.

Nomadd

To counter that I thought Avatar was outstanding, all the way through I kept thinking how jealous George Lucas must be, 9.5/10 from me.

Even the harshest of critics gave it a thumbs up:

http://uk.rottentomatoes.com/m/avatar/reviews_users.php

[nomadd]

What was all the fuss about?

Special effects 10 - can't really fault the effects.
Story 5 at best - no better than the worst instalment, possibly the weakest story yet.
Acting 5 at best, I found it pretty wooden, twee and overly self acknowledging. Apart from the new spock who was OK. Simon Pegg what possessed you? The guy playing Kirk was an extremely annoying, unlikeable and bad actor, best suited to some T4 teen soap. The same applies to the moron playing uhura.


Overall 6/10, must do better

I couldn't agree more. Very disappointing after all the hype. Mind you, I never pay to see films, so I can't complain.

And if you think ST was a load of over-hyped rubbish - which it was - wait until you see Avatar. It's a 2 hour yawn-fest. Even the graphics don't save it. Once again, don't believe the hype.

Nomadd

[Board Game Geek]

Indeed. Who want's one off epidsodes these days ?

We want proper over-arcing story lines, in depth characters, etc.

[Zippy]

I liked Bab 5 because there were very few happy endings and because it told a story (naff 'filler' episodes aside). There was some good acting in there too. Interestingly Star Trek introduced story arcs after Bab 5.

[AtW]

I find it hard to believe that anybody who'd ever watched B5 would ever say that. But not everybody cares about acting, or quality of writing, or any kind of realism. Some people even like the modern Dr Who.

Babylon 5 has got a good story and episodes are linked to the main line - granted Season 4 and especially 5 ain't that good, still it is a top job.

Now I have not seen most of Star Trek, but I've seen enough to make a judgement on it.

[norrahe]

I like a lot of Star Trek but I agree that Babylon 5 is superior.

Bab 5 in some parts reminds me of a bad lrp system Though I did like it.

[VectraMan]

I like a lot of Star Trek but I agree that Babylon 5 is superior.

I find it hard to believe that anybody who'd ever watched B5 would ever say that. But not everybody cares about acting, or quality of writing, or any kind of realism. Some people even like the modern Dr Who.

Funnily enough I watched one of the "new" original Star Trek's tonight. It seems they've not only digitally remastered it all, but redone the effects, which is good, but unfortunately also cropped it to widescreen which means it cuts off the tops of everybody's heads and looks crap.

It was one of the ones where they find some primative race worshiping a "god" that turns out to be a computer. But I still think the original series was better than anything that came afterwards (although DS9 was pretty good too).

[Zippy]

Star Trek in general is tulip compared to proper stuff like Babylon 5.

Given that axiom it is should not come as a surprise that new movie is also tulip.

Not even (supposed) presence of guns can make it good movie.

HTH

I like a lot of Star Trek but I agree that Babylon 5 is superior.

[centurian]

FTFY

Very much a Marmite movie... people either seemed to love it or hate it...

For me it was the latter...

[BolshieBastard]

Sadly abrams or whatever he's called turned Star Trek into such an unrecognised steaming pile of tulipe that if that film had of been the first or a tv pilot, it would have gone no further.

Very very disappointing. I'd say up there with the previous all time turkey trek film ST: The Final Frontier.

[Board Game Geek]

Firefly / Serenity FTW !

[jmo21]

I loved the new Star Trek film!

[AtW]

Star Trek in general is tulip compared to proper stuff like Babylon 5.

Given that axiom it is should not come as a surprise that new movie is also tulip.

Not even (supposed) presence of guns can make it good movie.

HTH

[RichardCranium]

Are you talking about the "new" Star Trek film that came out in May of last year?

KUTB, purlease.

http://forums.contractoruk.com/gener...er-thread.html

[norrahe]

No, just think the acting was better in the other versions. Sci Fi now seems to have to be Beverley Hills 90218 in space.

Most films seem to be filled with over gymmed model types who can't act for toffee and also a re-hash of what's already been done in the past.

I'm sure we're all really looking forward to clash of the titans mark II