It' not a lack of exercise that makes you fat...

[BrilloPad]

Yes, but you won't sell many diet books that way.

It also helps to pretend you are a doctor. No-one ever checks these things do they Gillian?

[bobhope]

Simple equation really :-

Intake - Expelled - Calories Burned = Weight adjustment

No matter how fancy the diet or the science behind it - it all comes down to that...

Yes, but you won't sell many diet books that way.

[BrilloPad]

Of course the more you exercise the less likely you are to want to stuff your face.

[TimberWolf]

That's why I say both exercise and a proper diet together are important.

If you just have a proper diet for a while, you don't get rid of much fat, mainly the muscle, and when you fail with the diet for a few days the fat piles on as the body thinks it needs to store up in times of plenty for the next lean period.

Exercise encourages the body to keep the muscle and get rid of the fat.

Also regular exercise allows the body to use those excess calories on those 'off' days (normally Thursdays when they give cake in the canteen :-)

I'm sure there must have been upteen studies of fat and muscle burning rates, with and without exercise, that would provide a definitive answer. Certainly anyone that has done weight training, or has been bedridden (or in space) for a while could testify to how quickly muscles disappear when not used (within days). And how quickly they come back.

[threaded]

Aye, though the body may be a bit naughty and burn muscle as well as fat when calories are restricted. Heck, AFAIK the body catabolises muscles when they aren't used and will regenerate them quickly when you exercise and eat. They also burn energy just in existing, which is perhaps why the body is keen to burn them off when energy is scarce.

That's why I say both exercise and a proper diet together are important.

If you just have a proper diet for a while, you don't get rid of much fat, mainly the muscle, and when you fail with the diet for a few days the fat piles on as the body thinks it needs to store up in times of plenty for the next lean period.

Exercise encourages the body to keep the muscle and get rid of the fat.

Also regular exercise allows the body to use those excess calories on those 'off' days (normally Thursdays when they give cake in the canteen :-)

[TimberWolf]

This confirms what I said long ago on fat threads. Exercise is of virtually bugger-all use in influencing the daily calorie account balance. (It can and should be done for other reasons, but that's beside the point.)

People who haven't a clue, i.e. have never actually lost a stone or two themselves and kept if off for a few years, are the ones who advocate exercise as a significant part of the solution.

Aye, though the body may be a bit naughty and burn muscle as well as fat when calories are restricted. Heck, AFAIK the body catabolises muscles when they aren't used and will regenerate them quickly when you exercise and eat. They also burn energy just in existing, which is perhaps why the body is keen to burn them off when energy is scarce.

[IR35 Avoider]

Staggering!

I wonder what 2 pints of Guinness and a ham sandwich equals.

About 2 and a half hours running, I calculate.

[threaded]

Well.... I find a significant amount of exercise is the key.

Mainly because it restricts the opportunities to have a snack.

[IR35 Avoider]

This comment below the article said it better than I did

I'm surprised the author is surprised. It's quite obvious that you have to do a vast amount of exercise (3000 calories worth, or about 8 hours jogging) to lose one pound in weight. It is ALL about what goes in the mouth and very little about how much exercise you do. Exercise is vital for your heart, lungs, cardio system, muscles bones and joints, but it's the food that makes you fat and it's the reduction of food that makes you slimmer.

[IR35 Avoider]

This confirms what I said long ago on fat threads. Exercise is of virtually bugger-all use in influencing the daily calorie account balance. (It can and should be done for other reasons, but that's beside the point.)

People who haven't a clue, i.e. have never actually lost a stone or two themselves and kept if off for a few years, are the ones who advocate exercise as a significant part of the solution.

45 minutes running on treadmill at 7mph equals one blueberry muffin (420 calories)

[centurian]

...it's the stuffing yer face that does it.

http://women.timesonline.co.uk/tol/l...cle6878496.ece

Winners of the 'No tulipe Sherlock' award.

Simple equation really :-

Intake - Expelled - Calories Burned = Weight adjustment

No matter how fancy the diet or the science behind it - it all comes down to that...

[Jet Setter]

If you're dumb enough to think you can eat kebabs every day but a run around the block twice a week will sort you out you deserve to be fat.

These articles always take things out of context. Of course exercise alone with a shabby diet won't be very effective. Just as a limited calorie diet but being completely sedentary might help you lose weight but you'll lose all your muscle as well and set your body on starvation mode making weight gain far more likely in the long term. Combination of exercise and healthy diet is the only effective way to lose weight in the long term.

People who 'earn' a muffin by going for a run aren't likely to be particularly fit or healthy.

[AtW]

Staggering!

I wonder what 2 pints of Guinness and a ham sandwich equals.

ham, tomato and mustard

[bogeyman]

19 minutes on elliptical trainer equals a banana

Staggering!

I wonder what 2 pints of Guinness and a ham sandwich equals.

[cojak]

...it's the stuffing yer face that does it.

http://women.timesonline.co.uk/tol/l...cle6878496.ece

Winners of the 'No tulipe Sherlock' award.