Reply to: Button's title

[Ruprect]

Well done Jenson... Looked like a proper racer today

[moorfield]

The flipper better win it cos I've got a 25-1 punt he'll get BBC Sports Personality - he's now at evens most bookies. If he flips up Straussy may well sneak it.

[d000hg]

Hamilton has been hot and cold all season and when he crashed out on the last lap at Monza he didn't look in the slightest bit bothered, he just looks like he's not putting in the effort.

He has been cold all season, until the last few races when the car has dramatically improved. He's known after the first few races he wasn't going to win again, and crashing out near the end of the season didn't mean anything... he was taking the chance to find the limits with nothing depending on the outcome.

[norrahe]

Nah, of course he didn't know anything.

me from Barcelona, me know naaaathing

[Zippy]

interesting, but are you surprised?

Alsonso has been itching to get in ferarris pants for years, so do we now have a mcclaren/renault conspiracy theory? (of course Alonso knew nothing about anything that happened, honest senior )

Nah, of course he didn't know anything.

[norrahe]

I notice the bitching has started between Alonso and Massa already

interesting, but are you surprised?

Alsonso has been itching to get in ferarris pants for years, so do we now have a mcclaren/renault conspiracy theory? (of course Alonso knew nothing about anything that happened, honest senior )

[Zippy]

Not directly... but maybe the guidance on the new rules was more readily available to certain teams pre-season? Funny how the small teams all had the diffuser yet the experienced teams didn't believing it would be illegal.

Oh. I'm starting to see your point. So (as a hypothetical example), a well known team is penalised for dubious reasons so the following season they are ultra cautious?

[gingerjedi]

Why do you think that?

Not directly... but maybe the guidance on the new rules was more readily available to certain teams pre-season? Funny how the small teams all had the diffuser yet the experienced teams didn't believing it would be illegal.

[Zippy]

I don't know what Ferrari's excuse is though, nothing springs to mind?

IGMC

I notice the bitching has started between Alonso and Massa already

On the Hamilton/Kovaleinen not winning point - I think you are being a bit cynical. I don't see how the munchkin could prevent that.

[gingerjedi]

Why do you think that?

Hamilton has been hot and cold all season and when he crashed out on the last lap at Monza he didn't look in the slightest bit bothered, he just looks like he's not putting in the effort. Also a team with their pedigree doesn't just turn up with a duff motor at the start of a new season. They've bent the rules and annoyed Bernie, now they are paying by 'not winning'. Of course I could be wrong but I'm cynical when sport and huge finances are involved.

I don't know what Ferrari's excuse is though, nothing springs to mind?

IGMC

[norrahe]

Botton and Barrichello will bottle it and Vettel will pip them to the post

[Zippy]

Button is a bit of a Henman, in that you can never be confident he can win.

He has won six races this season.

[Boudica]

maybe he needs a 'push' geddit???

[TimberWolf]

Button is a bit of a Henman, in that you can never be confident he can win.

[Zippy]

It looks that way but if the season was up-side-down Button would be a national hero, it's supposed to rain so he has a chance to prove he's worthy.

It's been an odd season, I'm convinced McLaren have been told to back off and let someone else win.

Why do you think that?