Reply to: Hit and run Harman

[minestrone]

He has to be after that latest gem

To engage AtW is a battle of wits with a very persistent unarmed man.

[Evil Hangover]

Again, are you on here as a wind up?

He has to be after that latest gem

[AtW]

Being Deputy Leader of the Labour Party if someone decided to shot Gordon she would get the job of running the country.

She certainly won't get that job for more than short period of time during which the real challenger will come out to get it.

With that I can say she is the 2nd most senior politician in the country.

2nd politician is debateable but I'd say the Leader of the Opposition qualifies. Deputy Leader of the Labour party won't be in Top 5, specificaly Harman isn't in top 20 though I am sure she likes to think that she is.

I mean FFS, do they not give you lot some kind of citizenship exams?

Thankfully it was not required to kiss Labour's arse in order to become a British citizen

[minestrone]

She is certainly not 2nd.



I am talking about chauffeur here specifically. Why would she need one? She is not the Queen or the PM or anyone who'd need to be driven on official occasions. Though on the other hand given how badly she drives maybe she should have one - it would make roads safer.

Being Deputy Leader of the Labour Party if someone decided to shot Gordon she would get the job of running the country. With that I can say she is the 2nd most senior politician in the country.

I mean FFS, do they not give you lot some kind of citizenship exams? Can we not add numeracy exams to that as well? Jesus wept.

Again, are you on here as a wind up?

[AtW]

She may be a stupid cow but she is (in theory) the 2nd most senior politician in the country at the moment.

She is certainly not 2nd.

You just want her to head down the high street and flag the bus?

I am talking about chauffeur here specifically. Why would she need one? She is not the Queen or the PM or anyone who'd need to be driven on official occasions. Though on the other hand given how badly she drives maybe she should have one - it would make roads safer.

[minestrone]

She should use public transport more - after all it was her Govt that screwed over motorists to pay for public transport, why is she driving in the first place?

Chauffeur is expensive (will cost more per annum than her car), and is completely unnecessary - she is not PM.

She may be a stupid cow but she is (in theory) the 2nd most senior politician in the country at the moment. You just want her to head down the high street and flag the bus?

Do you just come on here to prove you are thick? Is it a bet or something?

[Evil Hangover]

This happened 3 months ago. The daily mail picks it up the day before the tory conference, hmm ...

Shoddy journalism anyone? I can't stand Harman, she's beyond inept, but I bet this story fizzles out once recollections over the actual facts of the case emerge

[AtW]

She does a LOT of travelling. And why shouldn't she have a chauffeur anyway? What are your suggestions for the rights to such luxury?

She should use public transport more - after all it was her Govt that screwed over motorists to pay for public transport, why is she driving in the first place?

Chauffeur is expensive (will cost more per annum than her car), and is completely unnecessary - she is not PM.

[Kess]

B1tch.

I saw a car the other day with that number plate: B1TCH

It wasn't Harman, but the woman driver certainly did look the part (haughty-looking middle-aged blonde woman in big Mercedes).

[d000hg]

The issue is not a company car (she should be paying BIK on this), but chauffeur.

She does a LOT of travelling. And why shouldn't she have a chauffeur anyway? What are your suggestions for the rights to such luxury?

[AtW]

For the same reason a contractor travelling every weekend might expect business-class flights and decent hotels...

The issue is not a company car (she should be paying BIK on this), but chauffeur.

[d000hg]

I don't see why she shouldn't have a chauffeur-driven car, but get a decent car in that case!

Why should she? And even if she does then she should be paying Benefit in Kind tax on these services.

For the same reason a contractor travelling every weekend might expect business-class flights and decent hotels...

[Bagpuss]

She opened the door in her nightie

That's a funny place to have a door.

[Board Game Geek]

Churchill wrote : After you.

Oh I possibly couldn't.

Ladies first and all that.

Please lead the way.

[Churchill]

That reminds me of a story I heard at one of the sites where I was working.

2 secretaries were chatting, and one asked the other how her 82 year old Mum was.

The other replied that she was holding up, after the Police visit.

I carried on working, listening in to their idle chat, and it transpired that the poor old dear had clipped a parked car in her street and not realised it.

The owner (a neighbour) of the vehicle saw the incident, and instead of having a polite chat, he phone the cops and reported her as leaving the scene of a crime.

3 weeks later, 4 rather large burly coppers banged on her front door one night at 10.30 pm, getting her out of bed.

She opened the door in her nightie, and they said that they needed to come in and chat about a crime.

The poor dear was beside herself, thinking that one of her daughters or grandkids had been murdered.

They explained that 3 weeks ago, she had been witnessed leaving the scene of a crime, in which a vehicle was damaged.

They explained that this was a very serious crime, and would undoubtedly lead to a hefty fine, points on her licence, and quite possibly a custodial sentence.

The poor old girl was completely terrified, never having been involved with the police before, and being woken up at such a late hour by 4 burly coppers.

They did try and take her to the station for fingerprinting and DNA (which she didn't even know what that was, but they said it was part of her body or something, which helped matters no end).

She asked if they were arresting her, and they replied "not at this stage", so in tears she rang her daughter who arrived, managed to get the coppers out of the house, and she spent the night with her mum, calming her down.

The last I heard, is that the daughter recommended that her mother and the owner of the vehicle come to some arrangement in which she pays for the 2" scuff mark on his rear bumper. The garage have said that they will have to replace the whole bumper for £800.

I definitely feel that the response by the police was completely disproportionate to the crime committed, especially by a senior citizen, and to approach their investigation in such a heavy-handed manner has caused unnecessary stress and suffering.

I do wonder if the police are human at all sometimes, or completely devoid of any intellience or training to deal sympathetically with an old lady, let alone catch criminals.

Still, it's got to be easier to terrorise an old lady than god forbid patrol the high street at pub closing time.

Is this what we have to look forward to when we get old ?

Solution :

After you.