So now permies can only ever be sick on work time

[Mich the Tester]

Move to the Netherlands, they have something like that in place already

For permies yes, but their salaries are crap AND they pay a lot more tax than freelancers. Employers are very wary of hiring IT permies and cover their risks by keeping the salary low.

[NotAllThere]

As I understood it, it was law. Or at least, within the legal framework, as a rule. Perhaps this is the first time it's been tested. Or the first time it's become Europe wide. At the time, it was certainly obscure - hence my need to point it out.

[Zippy]

This was back in 2000. As I understood it then, what was in the handbook was required by law back then. So what's changed? (btw, Self-cert sickness was most certainly NOT covered ).

The handbook constituted part of your contract of employment but was not a blanket 'right' under the law?

[NotAllThere]

When I was a permie manager in the UK, I contracted bronchitis on the last few days of my holiday. I went to the doctor and got a sick note, as I was clearly going to be off more than the three days of self-cert. The sick note was dated from the date that I saw him.

I gave it into HR on return to work, and they credited my holiday account for the few days covered by the sick note, after I pointed out the relevant section in the employees handbook.

This was back in 2000. As I understood it then, what was in the handbook was required by law back then. So what's changed? (btw, Self-cert sickness was most certainly NOT covered ).

[Zippy]

I believe some areas of the public sector have this already.

Duvet days, blanket days, sickness days on holiday, it's no wonder why contractors are more cost efficient and in demand!

Yes they do, although it is discretionary.

[Spacecadet]

Absolutely. In fact the more benefits permies get, the better. I suggest we campaign for a 30 hour week and 10 weeks paid holiday a year for Permies NOW!

Move to the Netherlands, they have something like that in place already

[MrMark]

I believe some areas of the public sector have this already.

Duvet days, blanket days, sickness days on holiday, it's no wonder why contractors are more cost efficient and in demand!

Absolutely. In fact the more benefits permies get, the better. I suggest we campaign for a 30 hour week and 10 weeks paid holiday a year for Permies NOW!

[hyperD]

I believe some areas of the public sector have this already.

Duvet days, blanket days, sickness days on holiday, it's no wonder why contractors are more cost efficient and in demand!

[TimberWolf]

It's a shame you can't provide a proof of lack of sickness to potential clients/employers.

[scooterscot]

I heard about this. So what does that means for us? I mean its hardly fair on us that we miss out on contractual rates if a permie sneezes in my face...

[Peoplesoft bloke]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...usinesses.html

Insanity!